Nietzsche and Runaway Audio Consumption


Came across this today. A lot of posts bring up the issue of "how much is enough?" or "when is audio consumption justified" etc.

Does this Nietzsche aphorism apply to audio buying? You be the judge! 

Friedrich Nietzsche“Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. 

Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.” 

Nietzsche, Friedrich. 1996. Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits. Cambridge University Press. (p. 283-4, an aphorism no. 310)

I'm pretty sure @mahgister will want to read this one! (Because they speak so artfully about avoiding the diversion that consumption poses to the quest for true aesthetic and acoustic excellence.)

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Diversity should be welcome but not all diversity is necessarily welcome. Some has nothing to do with intelligence, ethics, values, or anything else of value to all.

 

Just picking up on broad idealized assertions that are clearly not true.   

I hear things are much better in La La land.

Fussing about capitalism on a high end luxury web site is an interesting scenario. 

Well the posts are off topic and nothing to do with audio or music  but so what? Technically it’s unsolicited so spam no matter and there are rules/guidelines about that. Solution is start a thread on the topic and tie it to audio or music. Then it’s legit and not spam.

C’mon @mahgister I’ve read quite a bit here and on other threads alluding to conspiracy theories. Fess up! The history seems to be targeted to support the theories. Just read what has been written.

Just saying.

My theory is that people are best served consulting with their doctor regarding medical issues like viruses and pandemics, not philosophers, politicians ,’news” people or what some random guy on the internet says.

 

We're living in the land of make-believe
And trying not to let it show
Maybe in that land of make-believe
Heartaches can turn into joy.
We're breathing in the smoke of high and low
We're taking up a lot of room
Somewhere in the dark and silent night
Our prayer will be heard, make it soon.
So fly little bird
Up into the clear blue sky
And carry the word
Love's the only reason why, why.
OPen up the shutters on your windows
Unlock all the locks upon your doors
Brush away the cobwebs from your day-dreams
No secrets come between us any more
Oh say it's true
Only love will see you through
You know what love can do to you.

Just follow the money. Our society revolves around the economy and the economy revolves around marketing and marketing takes no prisoners. Same for hifi. People market all over the place here there and everywhere. Each has their own plan and your spiritual well being is NOT a part of it. It is what it is. A simple power game to obtain a larger portion of the pie. Or merely just someone trying to make a living and get by. Maybe make people happy in the process? No sinister intent. We are human. Humans have needs and desires. Just be mindful. Think for yourself not as others would have you. Yin and Yang. No single truth that explains it all. 

As time goes by you will see
That we're going to be free
You and me, we'll touch the sky
Can you see in your mind's eye?
That we are one
We're all the same
And life is just a simple game

There, by your side, I will be
When this crazy world is free
Free from doubt
When it finds out
Exactly what we're meant to be
That we are one
We're all the same
And life is just a simple game

Thoughts of another day
Flashing through my head
Thinking how life could be
All of the things that our great men have said
Be what we want to be
What we deserve to be
What we are meant to be

As time goes by, you will see
That we're going to be free
You and me, we'll touch the sky
Can you see in your mind's eye?
That we are one
We're all the same
And life is just a simple game

We're gonna be free
Oohhh, gonna be free
Gonna be free
Free, gonna be free, gonna be free, Oohhh

…and I thank you for always sharing your learnings with others here as well. Perhaps if we are fortunate we will learn something as well.  🙏

@mahgister I personally find your posts here very interesting and well informed  and I actually learn a lot of new things about philosophers and such. I suspect many others do as well.

I do think you could do better to stay on topic though. We all have things we can improve on. That is merely my suggestion to you. I say it in an honest attempt to help you be more effective. We should always encourage polite conversation however concise conversation that is on point is always more effective, persuasive, etc. I would not offer feedback in an attempt to help you be more effective were I not fond of the ideas you profess. Well except when things start steering towards conspiracy theories perhaps. We are all imperfect in many ways. The road to improvement often involves accepting and acting on constructive criticism. It is a gift on can give another with only the best intentions.

Anyhow, now I am off topic and may get flagged as spam so enough of that. Carry on!

It’s not all spam of course but a significant portion of it could easily be deemed unsolicited so maybe. Always best to stay on point in any public debate. The more one does that the more effective they become as a communicator and in conveying the intended message.

You shouldn’t get insulted if someone sees things a bit differently than you do. Just take it for whatever it’s worth. Constructive criticism is exactly that. It’s always better to stay on point. Of course it’s a free forum so one can post whatever they want.

My value added on this topic is I think uncontrolled consumption is never a good thing in the end. Nor is uncontrolled anything pretty much.  The ability to control our impulses is something that should serve to distinguish us as a higher species compared to other more primitive species.