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Newbie Part 2

Hi-

Thank you all for responding to my previous threads. To refresh your memories, I have just purchased Paradigm Studio 100 v2 speakers (used), and have a Harman Kardon AVR-25 Mark II, and a Sony carousel - model CDP-CX300. I received numerous suggestions, and went out today to listen a bit.

I heard the Rotel Rc-1070 pre and the RB-1080 main, and they sounded good (and the "new" price was good, so a used price would be better). I also listened to the Arcam cd73 and was blown away by the difference between that an the cd192.

Previous suggestions for amps include YBA Integre (seems a little low in power to me), Odyssey amps generally, and an Audio Refinement Complete (although the reviews on this were mixed). Also, my local Paradigm dealer sells, among other things, the Anthem amps (of course), and recommends them highly with my speakers (but he didn't have the amp in stock). Can I get a few opinons (many is better) on these amps for my specific speakers if you have any knwoledge and actual experience?

Also, since I always thought cd players were cd players, I was blown away by the Arcam test today. Originally, I was recommended the Audio Aero Prima, the Rega Apollo, and the Prima Luna Prologue. Ideally, I'd like to get a cd play and amp/preamp (or integrated) that will be a significant benefit to my system all for $1500 or under. Not sure if that's possible, but am also looking for cd suggestions (matched with amps) if you're so inclined.

Sorry for the long message, but I'm learning more each day. Thanks for all of your help.
blewis1041

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It may be unlikely that you could score both the Prima Luna Prologue 1 or 2 and the Rega Apollo (together between $2200 and $2500 new) for $1500. But you do have some excellent options available to you.

You are correct that not all cd players are alike. If you can audition the Music Hall MMF CD25.2 cd player, you will be genuinely surprised what is available for about $500 or so, brand new. It is a well made and excellent performing CD player. It also pairs together in a very synergistic way with a number of different amps.

Based on my experience with some of the components that you name, I would recommend the following pairings:

NAD C372 integrated and the Music Hall MMF CD 25.2 cd player (list $1200 new)
Music Hall A25.2 integrated and the Music Hall CD 25.2 cd player (list $1200 new)
Prima Luna Prologue 1 and the Music Hall MMF CD25.2 cd player (list $1700 new)

If you could increase your budget to allow for the Prima Luna and the Rega Apollo, you would be pleased as well. I am using the Prologue 2 (with 6550 tubes) and the Apollo with Acoustic Research 302 speakers (3 way; 10 inch woofer; 1995 vintage). The system offers both musicality and detail. I have no desire to upgrade.

Good luck.

Regards, Rich
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Blewis:

If you have decided on the Apollo ($1000 new) and are serious about keeping to a $1500 or so budget, I would look at a NAD C372 integrated ($700 new) at 150 wpc.

Regards, Rich
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I think that some of the issues reported about the first Apollo production runs had to do with misunderstanding some of the Apollo's internal logic. When you put in any disc the Apollo does the following ... 1. shows as "INITIALIZING" in the display, 2. then shows the track number and track time, 3. then you have to press "play" to make it start. This whole process takes a few seconds. Also, the Apollo does not recognize CD-R's that have been recorded at greater than 8X speed.

As for warming up your components ... a half hour is nice to get the best sound. Most times I am lucky if I give it more than a few minutes, though I rarely listen closely to the first CD that I pop in, so I guess that it works out.

Regards, Rich
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