New Rega Planer 8 (P8) Turntable - Apheta 2 Cartridge Combo - Thoughts


Any Thought's on the "New" Rega Planer 8 (P8) Turntable - Apheta 2 Cartridge Combo

Any Rega owners / dealers / folks familiar with the table and/or brand have any thoughts / advise about this table / brand / combo? 

I am trying vinyl again... Tried it before without much luck. Table / cart / phono set up was too finicky for me and I wasn't able to get decent sound. I sold it all and am now giving it another try.

I also chose a Sutherland Duo phonostage to match with it.

Would love thoughts, advise, ideas or feedback. I have never owned a Rega product before. Going to set it up tonight but still waiting for my phonostage to be mailed to me. Would love some feedback. 

Thanks  

System info

Rega P8 Turntable / Apheta 2 Cart
Sutherland Duo Phonostage
Simaudio Moon Evolution P-8 Linestage
Pass Labs X250.8 Amp
Magico S5 Speakers (MK II's on order)




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I went to the Technics Sl1200g TT after owning 3 other turntables.  When I had the other turntables I lost interest in playing vinyl as they didn’t even sound close to my Esoteric SACD Player or to my Sony HAPZ1ES Music Server.   The Technics makes me want to play records.  Is the sound better than my digital, in some ways yes and in other ways no.  It certainly is competitive.
Yes that is what I wanted to be competitive or maybe not even but rather good or different enough to enjoy the difference but there was such a drop off that nothing about it was fun.

I mean its a pain in the neck verse clicking my iphone but still was so was hoping it would be enticing enough to want to do it. I just had no urge to listen to it at all :( was a bummer really as I really wanted to like it. 
I love vinyl and play it exclusively. I’ve had an RP6 and Exact 2 cartridge for about six years and can’t Imagine switching. I owned a $12,000 turntable and sold it. I actually like the Rega better.

It really sounds like vinyl is just not for you for whatever reasons. We all hear differently, all like different things. I don’t think you’ll be happy with even an expensive vinyl set up. Why not just go with what you like and be happy. If you’re
so enamored of your digital set up, go with it and enjoy it and stop wondering when you’ll reach Valhalla.

And stay off these damn audio sites- they’ll make you crazy!


Lol.. Great point and I agree but the reason is mainly because its the only thing in audio where what I read and hear does not equal my experience.

There is no way my digital is that good. Trust me - it is outstanding but it can’t be that much better because thousands and or maybe millions of people love it and what I have experienced can’t be what others love so much. Just can’t be.

I must be missing something somewhere.. That is why I bought a Rega thinking even if it is not the greatest it is plug and play so I can’t screw up and get a baseline understanding of what it is. I can say this that I have tried three different analogue set up’s and the Rega was the best but still not really that good? Ok I guess but I don’t understand??

Your right I should and may just stick with digital but honestly I really want to enjoy what Fremer and the other millions get to enjoy but for whatever reason is has alluded me?

Here are my 3 tries at analogue. Now the first set up was a real esoteric set up and the cart’s output impedance was so low the thought was that I needed to rewire my arm to VPI junction box so sold it and didn’t know how or want to do that and not even sure that was the problem and the 2nd go round I had 2 bad back to back carts (wish I tried a 3rd one but dumped it) the third go round just wasn’t really good. It was by the far the best but could not even begin to compete with my digital. Maybe the 4th will be a charm or maybe I will just buy a Luxman C-900u and M-900u combo and stick with digital?

1st try
VPI Prime Turntable
Haniwa Audio HCTR01 Cartridge
HEQA01 Phono Stage Equalizer preamp
Cardas Clear RCA Interconnects
PS Audio P10 Conditioner
HiDiamond P3 AC Cable


2nd try
VPI Aries 3D Limited Edition (#47 of 100) Turntable
Denon DL-301 Cartridge
Mark Levinson No.326s w/Phono Stage
Cardas Clear RCA Interconnects
PS Audio P10 Conditioner
HiDiamond P3 AC Cable


3rd try
Rega Planer 8 Turntable
Rega Apheta 2 Cartridge
Sutherland Engineering Duo - mono block Phono Stage
AudioQuest Fire RCA Interconnects
AudioQuest Niagara 1000 Conditioner
AudioQuest Tornado AC Cable

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fsmithjack
That is why I bought a Rega thinking even if it is not the greatest it is plug and play so I can’t screw up and get a baseline understanding of what it is.

Vinyl is not plug and play especially at the higher end - resolving systems. Also a lower perceived TT/Tonearm/Cart will out perform a higher perceived one that is not set up well.

Vinyl generates its signal through vibrations and resonances. Likewise vibrations and resonances in the room will affect the signal. It's a set up Game that takes knowledge of ones room and experience at the high end.
  
The Room plays a major factor. Hear me out as I asked you a question last time and you did not answer me. At least I did not see the reply back if you did. I can't explain the anomaly with the one LP. 

In looking at your Virtual system I notice the sloped ceilings that indicate your system is on a raised floor upstairs. Two levels up ? Suspended wood beams ?

In my personal experience All turntable rigs on suspended floors have challenges and constraints. The higher resolving gear more challenging. Everyone I know that has Vinyl upstairs has gone to great lengths to isolate the table better. If you are intent on keeping it upstairs and making it better - look at the shelf isolation.  
  
Now as you have said you sold everything, so  I would stick to digital. What good is a frustrating hobby?  If you are stubborn and want to make it right - hang a shelf on a load bearing wall in that room to start. Place your turntable on it. Try this with a very modest rig to see if works.
Good Luck