New Raven Audio CeLest Monitor coming this fall.

jerryg123 & arafiq

Are you or have you ever been service members?  If not, you don't have a clue what it means to be dishonerable to one.

@jetter no but I was an Eagle Scout and my Grandfather was a Lt Col and my Father a Major. 

So I have a real good idea.

I am still suspect of the post.

No funds were exchanged.  The intent of my post goes beyond economics, but to character.  To me and people like me, ethics matter.  The way in which James comported himself was dishonorable and reflects poorly on him and his company.  I think it is important for consumers to be made aware such unscrupulous business tactics in order to make a more informed purchasing decisions.  At the end of the day, James did in fact to me a "favor," he showed me his true character and those of Raven Audio before I made a purchase.

@erangel I understand and an acquaintance of mine had some issues with James.Will not go into the details however I now have no reason to doubt the validity of your complaint and I will steer clear of these people.
This person even chirped off on in the comments section of Part Time Audiophile that posted a review of the Blackhawk and his post was deleted. He did say the editor sent him an email and wanted to hear the details of his complaint. He just let it die he felt it was a waste of time when PTA killed his post.

Ethics and integrity is very important and seems to lacking at times.

@erangel -- My last post was not meant to cast doubt on the validity of your complaint. I have no reason to believe you were anything less than truthful. I was just presenting another data point which was very different than yours obviously. As you know, the cost of almost everything has gone up due to supply chain issues. It is entirely possible that Raven could not have built the speakers at the price they quoted earlier due to increased cost of parts. The US manufacturers are at a greater disadvantage due to higher transportation and logistics costs. I guess that’s what you get when you outsource everything to another country.

With the onslaught of lower priced Chinese audio, I feel that US audio manufacturers are a dying breed. It was hard enough to compete due to higher labor costs in the US, and unfortunately the recent supply chain disruption can be the final nail in the coffin, especially for little guys like Raven Audio. There is no excuse for how James behaved with you, and I’m with you on that. But we don’t know what kind of pressure these folks are under. We are all human, and sometimes stress can make us behave in ways that don’t reflect who we really are. The James I dealt was a nice guy willing to go out of his way to accommodate his customers. I’m just surprised how he behaved with you. Again, not doubting your side of the story.

I sincerely hope that James or one of the other folks at Raven can find a way to make this right for you. Good luck and thank you for your service!