new Allison Krause & Robert Plant Pressing seems noisy


Just dropped on vinyl today.  been waiting a good decade for a follow up to Raising Sand and while this material is fantastic, seems like I got a noisy pressing.  Not many pops and clicks but noise is there on everything.  Switched to 10 other albums and dead quiet.  Getting the same jam on the clearaudio Stradivari v2, Benz LP-S, and the new super slick Goldenberg Brilliant cart.  Ran it through a few washes, a tad better, but it's got a noisy floor.  Wonder if anyone else is getting this.

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Showing 4 responses by mijostyn

@loomisjohnson , I absolutely agree. I just got the digital download.

@herman , I should have said you should assume all are bad. Not that you should not try to get a better one but, as with my recent experience with Blue Note it can be like pulling teeth. In this case the heater elements were not balanced and all the records came out dished. They kept sending me dished records in spite of my insisting on waiting for the next run. 

Another comment I wish to make about modern records and reissues. I have had somebad reissues. Little Feat's Last Record Album was disgusting. However. modern monitoring and mastering equipment is far more advanced than years back leading to more accurate versions particularly of old rock records. Frank Zappa's early records were all muted but the remasters are terrific. Surrealistic Pillow and Baxters are another example. The record industry was making records for kids with crappy record players as cheaply as possible so they could afford them. They took Jazz and Classical far more seriously. The differences were obvious on my fathers system. I am not sure where this "gotta have original pressings" came from but I don't. If the modern analog version is no good I just download a file if one is available. This Happened with The Cure's Disintegration. After three bad copies I gave up and got the file which is excellent. 

@herman , The record is noisy because of the conditions it was subject to during it's manfacture. All the records pressin that run were subject to the exact same conditions. If the stamper was bad, all the records that come off that stamper (1000) will be just as noisy. If you wait until another run is made you might get a quiet one.

@millercarbon , I politely disagree. I returned a lot more records in the old days than I do now as a percentage. I have had a few really bad ones recently. In the old days I have to say that european classical records were uniformly wonderful. But, popular music when they pressed hundreds of thousands of copies were hit or miss. I must have returned one in five records back then. 

@millercarbon , Pressings in the 70's and 80's could just as bad or worse. With Warner, Columbia, RCA, Epic and Capital you could never be sure what you were going to get. Sometimes great, sometimes awful. Today at least you can identify a few companies that you get consistenly decent pressing. In the old days the only pressings you could be sure of were European classical discs and even some of the like DGG startedto suffer. This is what drove people to spend more on MoFi discs. I like vinyl but if I can get a properly mastered 24/96 file I will take it any day. Don't think so? Check out Steven Wilsons Remix of Aqualung in 24/96. If you do not think that sounds better than any prior version you have heard vinyl or otherwise?.....

No, millercarbon is correct, they will all be like this. This was the problem with popular music decades ago. The noise is in the stampers. The company being used to do the pressing has a hygeine problem somewhere along the line. It takes meticulous shop keeping to get through all the processing without intruducing issues that cause noise. 

This is where digital comes into play. I assume you are talking about Raise the Roof. It is available in 24/96 digital. The thing is, This is Rounder Records who usually do an excellent job with their vinyl. I would see if they have a contact line and tell them what you have. See what they will do. I just had it out with Blue Note over a severely defective pressing. They kept sending me the same defective pressing over and over. 4 times in spite of my telling them they had to throw the whole batch away and start over. I gave up. It is like running into a concrete wall.