+1 d2girls
Yep! It would be a sad time if the audio greats all decide that the science, art and engineering of making fine audio components at fair market value, isn't where it's at.....Jim
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It isn't a mater of comparison or reason that a $25K cable is going to sound amazingly better than a $100.00 cable - the science of what it takes to transfer an audio or digital signal through 1 meter of cable has been around for some time and beyond what it takes to perform the task, everything else is smoke and mirrors or an outright con.
Everyone has the right to spend as they choose, but for a fact, if I had an extra $25K to spend on audio - it wouldn't be for expensive, bogus cables or cords.....Jim
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@taras22
Wow! you'd think that someone who was smart enough to know a bit about history would be smart enough to build a legitimate set of cables that didn't pilfer some poor, or should I say rich fool out of $22K for a bogus set of cables.
Maybe the word isn't smart, just crafty.....Jim
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Holy cow geoff, you almost made me cry for the guy!
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@taras22
the easiest way to appear foolish is to talk about things you know little or nothing about.
Don't be so sure, I know way more about it than you might think.
Building a 3' PC cable to connect component A to component B is and has been for some time - pretty simple science.
In case you didn't notice - the industry, everything from the the performance to the recording studio, is going wireless. As long as you can sell a 1 meter set of PC cords for $24K, to some fool who believes there is some great magic to it - go for it.......Jim
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@taras22
Another old saying " if you can't fool the ones who know, then fool the ones who don't"
Best of luck.......Jim
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@graystoke
I have no doubt there are some with deep pockets, who are gullible enough to fall for such a splendid creation - truly believing it's just got to give them better sound. Or maybe just need something to stoke their ego....Jim
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@geoffkait
The Swedish Super Car Keonnegsig is worth 10 million bucks. Are you going to boycott them?
The body is made from composite carbon fiber - What!? No Graphene??? A 10 million dollar car and no Graphene - they aint getting any of my business, I'll tell ya that!!........Jim
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@jsautter
Passenger?
Well since I've been an audiophile, or at least a well engaged enthusiast, for about 40 years now and I was, until the closing of their US factories, a master machinist and field tech for one of the largest electronics and apparatus manufactures in the world; as well, have managed construction crews and owned and operating three successful small businesses - not quite sure what, in your mind, might qualify me as a passenger, but have at it.
I do, in fact, know a good deal about cords and cables and am pretty good at separating fact from fallacy....Jim
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@glupson
Yes, you might just have a point there.....Jim
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While it’s true that to some, $24,000. is chump change, it’s also true that (by many, many times) there are more, right here in the US. who make less than that for a year of working wages.
Regardless - $24,000 has no equation to the true science, value or performance of a 1M pair of IC cables. Put lipstick on a pig - it’s still just a pig with lipstick, no mater how high the bid goes.....Jim
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To clarify: I do not believe that all cables sound the same, but I do know, for a fact, that all cables of the same length built to the same established standards of low capacitance, low inductance and low resistance, using quality conductors and connectors - will sound the same. Which is to say they will pass an un-colored, un-obstructed signal from component A to component B. After all, isn't that the purpose?.......Jim
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I could care less what the rich blow their big bucks on. The problem I have is the fact that the sham of $20K+ IC cables is an insult to the legitimate manufactures and designers of fine audio gear, that's price tag has some relation, in actual value, to the price charged.
It's my fear that sound engineering and equitable good products will give way to bogus claims and inflated prices and that will become the new norm of the fading HEA.
As an avid outdoors-man, I have spent a good deal of $$$ over the years, to buy quality gear. Along with expensive fire arms and scopes, one of my favorite items is a pair of $2,200. Swarovski EL binoculars - now valued at about $3,000.00. Some of the best field optics in the world are made by Swarovski and Lica and unlike magic cables, their products have a lifetime warranty and hold their value. In either case their best binoculars and field scopes (coveted by outdoors-men and professional field workers around the world) range from around $2.5K - $3.5K for binocs and $3K - $4K for field scopes. Doubtful that either of these fine companies would ever stoop to the level of some audio cable makers and come up with the idea they can build a pair of glasses and claim to have optics coated with graphene, moon dust and dark matter, so they can stick a $24K price tag on them to satisfy the egos of the rich......Jim
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@ketchup
That's the thing, it's all relative I originally went from a Radio
Shack interconnect to a $100 Duelund. That's a multiplier of about 50x.
It's only relative to a point. Beyond that point, it becomes a lie and a sham.
Dueland's $100.00 un-shielded cable is actually quite good for a reasonable cost and their $120.00 shielded cable is also decent, if you need shielding. Shielding on IC cables usually does more harm than good and the layers and layers of fancy wrapping and garbage that the high dollar cable dudes sleeve over their China made, mediocre conductors, is a farce. There are few 1M ICs that would sound much better than what you have and 0 that would sound 2,400 times better.
Rest well knowing you have a quite decent set of cables and enjoy the music......Jim
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