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Need help from you acoustical experts

Here is the latest version of my new listening room. Everything is nice and symmetrical. Depth is ok, width could be a little better. Most of the treatments are from GIK Acoustics, placed where they recommended.(mostly).

Treatments on the side walls are at 1st and 2nd reflection points.

Walls are drywall screwed and glued to steel studs, paneling glued and strapped to drywall and filled with Rockwool. The ceiling has R30 insulation covered by CelingMax grid, screwed to the joists (not hanging). Dedicated circuit for the stereo, and HVAC ducts insulated to keep it quiet.

Yeah, it’s very quiet. Creepy quiet.

My issue is probably with the treatments. Midrange/singers are very forward, and high in the room. Usually as high as the white music note panels, and sometimes the singer sounds like she’s on the ceiling between the speakers.

Anyone see a mistake I’m making with the acousticsounds panels, either placement or type?

I’d like to post some pictures, not seeing how to do it. Guess you'll need to look at my profile. 

 

 

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newbee
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My first reaction when I look at your pictures is your speakers are far to close to the wall behind them. The first thing I would do if I came into your room would be moving the speakers forward from that wall about 4ft. My next thing I would do is try moving them closer to the side walls and increasing the toe in substantially, possibly until the axis’ cross in front of your head. I think the panels on the side walls to deal with first reflections would control the side wall reflections. Of course you would have to move your listening chair back to maintain the ’triangle’. And, FWIW, I think you may have too many panels but I would have to actually hear the room to know. I don’t know these panels but I would put absorptive panels on the walls first reflection points, diffusing panels on the 2d reflections points. I’m not at all sure that the panels on the rear wall (wall behind the speakers) are at all necessary, but if I did they would be of the diffusive type and I would place them in the center of the wall, I think a modified version of a live end/dead end set up works well. Just try moving the speakers 1st and changing the toe in. And if that works (at all) for you you can start to rethink your need for panels.

newbee
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OP, FWIW I understand what Albert intended design wise for these speakers. And he may have achieved universal success. He clearly wanted a speaker that would satisfy folks who didn't want to move them off the wall, often for esthetic reasons, but I've see no one say that they couldn't sound good positioned more traditionally. In your place I'd spend a half a day or so repositioning them not only to see if you can resolve your issue but that you might, just might mind you, find that in your room they could sound better. Those old Snell A speakers, for example, could sound better off the wall sometimes.  Finding better bass can be problematic sometimes depending on your room (that occurs with most speakers). So, bottom line, your speakers, your room, your ears, your choice. Good luck.

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