Need 20 - 25 foot spk cables.



Having to move a pair of Sound Lab M2's to a new position in the home.  Problem is that the equi rack has to stay where it is.  So I will need 20 - 25 foot cables.  Real high end will be above my pay grade.  I had used in the past real honest to goodness, belden coax in 10 foot runs.  Roger Sanders had used this years ago with his speakers and ESL amp.  I have a ESL amp and to be honest for many years the coax sounded pretty good, but I'm sure I could do better for a long run.  Any comments appriciated.
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In my experience running long speaker cables often is not a good idea. Think about how much a set of Sound Labs set you back, and the simple fact that they are one of the most resolving loudspeakers on the planet. Running long cables often results in a noticeable loss of impact and resolution! 20 to 25 feet is going to have an effect and you won't be able to solve it by throwing money at the cables. In all the cases where I've seen speaker cables longer than 10 feet, placing the amps right by the speakers and running a balanced line to the amp has resulted in greater definition across the spectrum.


The problem here is no speaker cable is a perfect match for any loudspeaker and the longer you make the cable the worse this problem becomes.


Now you don't need balanced equipment to do this- you simply need a set of line driving transformers at the preamp and line receive transformers at the amp. Jensen makes excellent transformers for this specific purpose. You run single-ended to the transformers, run a long balanced line between the transformers, then convert back to single-ended.

Now if any of your equipment is balanced, you may not need one or both pair of transformers. We built our balanced preamps specifically so we could run long interconnect cables without coloration or losses- in my house I was running 28 feet of Fulton speaker cables; when I went to balanced operation and ran 6 foot speaker cables instead there was an instant improvement in clarity- IOW musicality and neutrality.


Note that most high end audio equipment (sources and preamps in particular) do not support the balanced line standard. This means they can't drive long cables and the cable you use might sound different; if everything supports the standard then the cables will be transparent. If in doubt use the transformers. They are inexpensive relative to the cost of decent speaker cables!
I also need 22 and 25 ft. lengths due to domestic equipment placement, and thoroughly enjoy AntiCables. They were one of the only affordable solutions for me.
I won't pretend that I know if they'll work in your situation and with your speakers, but here are the tech specs for your perusal.
I believe the Level 3.1 would be the choice. (They are referenced as Level 3 on the spec page).
http://anticables.com/technical
Thank you everyone for for the info and replies.  I agree with many, and have mixed feelings about others.  Yes short is great agreed, and I just spent a good ampunt this past spring for 10 foot of a high end brand of wire.  No, the poer amp can'y ( easily ), be moved.  I'd have to pay to have a new outlet installed.  I'm not sure about long runs of cables from the preamp either, but I do have balanced outputs, but then again a long run of preamp to amp cables would be pretty pricy as well.

Roger Sanders actually says that the coax cables actually are a good match for a panel type for speaker.

Wire is funny stuff.  You see so many ads for expensive wire, all with what they call the "best" method of construction.  Does anyone know for sure.  It's all up to each persons ears. 

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