@millercarbon : welcome back! I just noticed
Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?
After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication. Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review. One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products.
Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications. Those are not test measurements.
I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any. Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements. Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred. Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture. Do they have something to hide? I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.
ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions. Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?
Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."
Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.
I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.
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@kota1 : let’s be fair here, Sir Armir’s AP testing equipment alone is several times more expensive than your entire system. Everything sounds fabulous through it. Who listens to music nowadays. So 20th century. You measure. And enjoy the signal. Those graphs give you goosebumps 🤭 (I wanted to say “a hard on “ but I refrained) | |
Verified by perpetual blind tests I presume?
Somehow, posts like this make me wonder whether THE Amir account has been hacked by a 10-14 years old dude
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Absurd question. The amp the measures better will sound better. By definition. You are doing it wrong. Here is how to do it the right way: Take measurements on both amps (or read ASR measurements). Only listen to the amp that measures better. Return the other amp. Go with science | |
And that’s great. What the professor is saying is if you have nothing to back up what you are hearing, that’s just anecdotal, and you are making dubious unsubstantiated claims. If not simply hallucinating. You should refrain from posting such dubious claims in the Internet. You are risking some poor soul wasting hundreds of dollars of their hard earned money, blood sweat and tears, paying for enrichment of the evil audio manufacturer.
So please…. before you post anything, make sure you have proof. Either measurements, or blind tests certified by a third party independent panel. Preferably both. | |
@kota1 : yes Mapleshade Samson rack. And a few amp stands | |
@mastering92 : what are you doing? You realize you are simply giving Amir and his worshippers (what you call minions) another platform, a tool to generate even more clicks to the site they already own?
Think. Why is he posting here? Isn’t a full site he currently own, apparently most popular audio site in the entire audio world, the ASR, not sufficient for him as a platform to express his personal views fully and freely? | |
Forget about it. He has no system. Zero. It’s so funny he now he pretends to be a speaker manufacturer. I have asked him the same exact question everytime during his previous 16-17 usernames. He will tell you nothing. Not even the name of one single piece of his imaginary “system”
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Cin Dyment: have you ever considered confronting your master on ASR? Or is your ego bigger than his?
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