Nearfield Low-Level Listening : New Speakers or EQ? Thoughts?


In my main rig, I listen nearfield at low levels, and I do not feel the music sounds fully engaging until moderate-to-loud volumes. Have been told my speakers, Totem Forest Signature, "need power to sing". I have ordered a Schiit Loki Max EQ; wondering if that will do the trick or do I need to consider new speakers? I use the Loudness/Comp feature on my integrated amp, it helps some. Listen to 70s, Jazz, Americana, ...

My System:

  • Accuphase E-380 Integrated
    • 180 watts into 4 ohms and 120 watts into 8 ohms.
    • High damping factor of 500.
  • Totem Forest Signature Speakers
    • Impedance: 8 ohms (6.4 ohms minimum)
    • Sensitivity: 87 dB
    • Recommended Power: 50 - 225 watts
  • Rose HiFi RS-150B Streamer/DAC
  • Thorens 1601 TT, Schiit Skol Pre, Nagoaka Cart
  • REL Classic 98 Subwoofer, Speakon connection
  • XLR Connections, Bi-Wired Speakers
  • Shunyata Power Conditioner

 

gemoody

Showing 4 responses by gemoody

Good input.  Lots to consider.  Volume, Amp, speakers, EQ, room, tubes, voice coil diameter, F-M Curve …

I will try the EQ first.  I have thought about higher sensitivity speakers, always wondered about Fyne F700/701.  A tube amp has been in the back of my mind, but there is much, for me, to love about the Accuphase vibe, and it is still new-ish.

@yoyoyaya yes, very close together, an unfortunate room limitation. Contributes to issue?

@cdc cannot find spec info for voice coil diameter, and more clues?

@moonwatcher thanks for the Frampton reference 

@elliottbnewcombjr good info on the Loki bands, thx.

@deep_333 your right, time to sell everything.👎

Will do some research into the Fletcher-Munson Curve.  Any recommended resources.

appreciate the Forum and it inhabitants.

@mswale Thanks for the compliment on the gear. To be clear, I do have the opportunity to turn it up, and it does sound much better!

Thanks to all who have commented and given their time and expertise.  Much appreciated.

Thanks for all the input, feedback, advice, cautions, and even the non-sequiturs.  The Loki Max arrives today, so I should have impressions here next week.  Any further counsel on EQ settings will be heard and heard.

Kind regards, gm

 

 

OP here, time to check back in. I received the Schiit Loki Max EQ, and wow. I have always enjoyed my new/current system, but during my frequent low volume listening sessions, a fullness and sound stage were missing. As mentioned before, I thought about buying new speakers.

So I’m a week or so into the Loki Max EQ, and I would not send it back, or trade it, and would fight anyone who tried to take it. Upon first listen, the low volume details were profound. The room filled with sound. Not surprisingly, I do enjoy being able to tweak the sound, subtly, from the couch with the remote. As for the three preset EQ settings; one each for flat, low volume, loud. Perfect for me.

My only complaint about the Loki Max EQ, and the also excellent Schiit Skoll Phono Pre, is their stubbornness to not put a power switch in the front. I keep my components in a rack, so it is very difficult to reach my hand in behind and shift things around in order to just turn them on and off. Schiit says it does this for cost reasons. But in the Loki Max case, they call it a “cost is no object” component, so there’s that. Anyway, that’s a minor complaint, but I do find that I use them both less often, solely due to this inconvenience.

In summary, I like the Schiit Loki Max EQ, a lot. Solved my low listening level woes. If the power switch were on the front, I would love it.