Thanks for your response. I guess placing them close to the equipment being filtered is the best. I am fortunate to have 3 dedicated lines.
Perhaps too many on one AC line is overkill. Try placing the combo with your router on a different AC line, it could enhance that line too.
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Well, I was hoping for other users to reply to my question, but...
I went ahead and tried the Snubway/Main Stream combo directly into my Niagara 7000 in the same first outlets that my amps are plugged into instead of the at the wall outlet(s).
The result:
Much more of the open, deep soundstage, charming results of these units. I can only conclude that placement of these units does matter. And I now believe that the closer to the "action" contributes more.
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So, I have a question for all you Snubway- Main Stream users.
Are you using these devices at the wall outlet or at the power conditioner?
I just tried the combo into my AQ Niagara 1200 PC which powers my subs instead of directly into the wall (dedicated line). And I think... its sounds better. Perhaps because it is closer to the action?
I ask this question because my main system is plugged into a Niagara AQ 7000 (another dedicated line) and plugging into that unit will require some contorting and swearing on my part to try it.
So, what is the preference?
ozzy
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Yes, correct the Snubway does not light up.
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traubr, Sorry I misspelled your moniker previously.
What fuses did you choose to use with your SDFB? I am using the graphene's.
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trabur,
Which fuses did you get for the SDFB?
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jayctoy,
Do you have or have you tried the SDFB?
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cappuccino,
Yes, they are very effective.
Next, same your money, and get a Swiss Digital Fuse Box for your amp. Another big uptick in sound quality.
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traubr,
Very interesting and well written post. Sometimes these "tweaks" are a swing and a miss.
I have never tried just the Snubway, it was always in conjunction with the Main Stream device. I am not sure what the Snubway by itself is supposed to arrest. Perhaps with your clean power it accomplishes nothing.
I know you have already returned the Snubway, but perhaps in the future you can try the Snubway/Main Stream Tandem, it would be interesting to hear those results.
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sgordon1,
You evidently do not understand what I posted. Or perhaps I did not make it clear.
The dual plug in I suggested will take just one socket space allowing you to use both the Snubway and the Main Stream into that open socket.
And, because you are just inserting the Snubway/Main Stream into it, all of the other Audio components are then using appropriate outlets.
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I have the AudioQuest 7000 power conditioner, so I do have my amps plugged into it. The Snubway/ Main Stream is plugged into the same quad box as the 7000.
Take a look at these adapters on Amazon : Do a search, they are called:
CyberPower GC201 6" Heavy Duty Extension Cord.
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toolbox149,
I still think they work better as a combo. There are many devices that can add an extra outlet. Check Amazon.
And in my opinion, these types of devices work better before the power conditioner.
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Thanks, tommyu for your post. These products are probably the best bang for the buck there is.
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I now have 3 sets of the Snubway/Main Stream. One set per dedicated line.Very nice, quality improvement.
Anyone else feed the beast?
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gladmo,
Your experience sorta mirrors my first reaction as in my original review. I think... they take time to breakin or maybe the word is adjust?
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Another Update:
I have 3 dedicated lines.
1. I line for my Audio System with Snubway/Main Stream filter
2. 1 line for my (4) JL Audio F-113 Subwoofers. Set to 45hz.
3. 1 line for my Home Theater Video system with Snubway/Main Stream filter.
I just tried the Snubway/Main Stream Filter set from my Video system on the Sub line, and they are not going anywhere. It seems when the bass is right everything else just locks in. Center image really locked in, hard to believe that the bass with these filters could affect the image specificality. And, with really deep tuneful bass.
So, I ordered one more set to re-insert into my Video system. Each dedicated line will then have a Snubway/Main Stream filters.
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So, after a few more days, the combo has really settled down and is in the zone. Music earlier that once sounded perhaps a little sharp now sounds more relaxed but still detailed, that is; in a good way.
I still believe my Audio system may have taken a little longer to mesh due to all of the other components I have that deal with AC noise.
facten,
I did have at one time 10 Puron’s on my audio line and a few more on my Video and Subwoofer circuits. Eventually, I came to the realization that it was too much. I sold/gave away most of the Puron’s but kept a couple to compare to the new Snubway/Main Stream combo.
There is really no comparison. All the good things that the Puron provided was many times better. I now only have one Puron left that resides in my computer/Modem/ EthereRegen, clock etc. room.
It is amazing how cleaning up the AC opens up the music. Perhaps that is why some audio equipment is so expensive?
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jmfinney,
Thank you for the kind comment. I have been on this site for many years, and I really try to be sincere with my comments. Member’s comments on equipment I find to be more valuable than reviews from “paid” Reviewers. I always wonder…
The Snubway by itself worked well with my Video setup. I was impressed, images were sharper. However, when I added the Main Stream everything got a lot better! Colors, contrasts etc. So, to me they complement each other. Actually, seeing the image improve was an easy test.
Now on my audio setup. I had enough original foresight to install a quad Furutech outlet box on this dedicated AC line. So, this gave me the ability to plug in my AQ 7000, Puritan Ground City and now both the Snubway and the Main Stream devices.
I have not tried the filters directly into my AQ power conditioner, perhaps I might yet. I am of the mindset that if you can clean it up at the wall the power conditioner can only improve upon that. I’m still getting use to the filter combo, some songs that I was familiar with have a different soundstage. That is; sometimes its deeper, other times it may be flat. Hmm.
And there seems to be a general cleaning of the image. Some songs sound a little sharper. No matter what though, these units need burn in/break in time.
So, we shall see if they improve more. I will be very interested to read what you think of the units when you get them.
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UPDATE:
It’s now been several days since inserting the Snubway/ Main Stream filters back into my audio system and I now feel comfortable in making a few comments on the performance.
The Challenge:
My Audio system has several unique add on’s that are not present in my Video System. First to mention is the AudioQuest Niagara 7000 (a big-time power conditioner). I also have a full complement of AudioQuest Dragon power cords. And I have an SR Master fuse and the new SR Pink fuses in my amps.
And, I have really doubled down on cleaning up ground noise. I have a Puritan Ground City for chassis ground and a Entreq Silver Tellus Grounding box for signal grounding. Plus, I have a couple of my own DIY grounding boxes for my speakers. These devices have really improved upon my listening enjoyment. So, the Snubber/Main Stream filters will have to improve upon all of this. Perhaps this a tuff challenge.
Well after revisiting them, I definitely feel the filters have improved quite a bit after some run in time. The audio “in-the face” (harshness?) as I stated previously was gone, whew! So, these filters do need some hours to develop. It’s funny though, the Video seemed to be immediately improved. But again, it could be because all of the extra components that I listed above that is in my audio system.
I must admit, I didn’t think the filters would come around to my expectations. I have tried many different plug-in type of gizmos that did little if anything.
Now I’m not sure of exactly how many hours of break-in has passed, perhaps maybe now 72+. And then suddenly, I started to hear a more defined and real center image. Hmm. Then, within the next few hours the sound stage started to widen. And finally, as I write this, the bass has become quite tuneful.
Happy camper…
So, if you have your audio system tweaked out and cleaned up as I do, don’t expect the “magic” with this combo to be instantaneous. Give them 3 or more days of burn/break in.
Now, I am really digging the sound quality. Recommended by this tweaker.
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If it does so much for the Video it must be cleaning up the AC, so I expect big things with my Audio Equipment too!
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