That’s your opinion which you’re entitled to. Like I stated in my post, I use both naturally performed acoustic performances (performed in different venues) and single instruments played unamplified in our listening room as a reference. And, of course the performance environment will have a signature character for that recording.
Also true - variables in the recording chain make a difference. Experience shows better quality recordings sound very very similar to real music. Much more so than different.
But stating music cannot be reproduced to sound convincingly like it’s live performance? It’s apparent what you state is theory - you haven’t tried listening to live music in your room. Granted, the prerequisites require a very high fidelity (not necessarily very expensive - ours is ~ $250k) system and a well designed and acoustically treated room. If you did you’d know empirical / actual results.
Still disagree?
You’re welcome to visit my home and listen for yourself. I live in the central NJ area. Bring your own music if you like. Wire too for that matter. Just agree to post here your experiences. Everyone who’s visited easily identified differences when wires were changed. This includes MIT Oracle MAX-SHD speaker cable (retailed for $50k) and MIT Oracle MAX-2 balanced interconnect (we’re not considering low end merchandise). I use these for demonstration comparison.
The few dozen people I’ve shared with came away with a completely different perspective.
But like I’ve stated before in this forum, I’ve given up on trying to share knowledge with individuals. Instead of being a forum where individuals can share experiences and learn from each other, it becomes a "you’re wrong and I’m right" urinating match.
Still not convinced? The editor at Stereophile who has recorded countless audiophile recordings (I forget his name) who reviewed and claimed the Pass XA-60.5’s were the best amplifier he heard at that time because they sounded most realistic. And in that review he confirmed other amplifiers had more realistic bass. Maybe he got it wrong? Pass paid him off - yes, that must be it. Or any one of countless other conspiracy theories.
You can be fine with whatever sound you like (and Jay, I respect what you describe and have defended your position in the past). But goodsource, that doesn’t mean your conjecture is accurate / real.
You know what - you’re 100% right and I’m 100% wrong. Let’s leave it at that. Really - it’s just not worth the time or effort.
Jay - forgive me. I didn’t mean to cause a disagreement in your thread. You have an entertaining and revealing thread and I sincerely wish you the best with it continuing as such.
Also true - variables in the recording chain make a difference. Experience shows better quality recordings sound very very similar to real music. Much more so than different.
But stating music cannot be reproduced to sound convincingly like it’s live performance? It’s apparent what you state is theory - you haven’t tried listening to live music in your room. Granted, the prerequisites require a very high fidelity (not necessarily very expensive - ours is ~ $250k) system and a well designed and acoustically treated room. If you did you’d know empirical / actual results.
Still disagree?
You’re welcome to visit my home and listen for yourself. I live in the central NJ area. Bring your own music if you like. Wire too for that matter. Just agree to post here your experiences. Everyone who’s visited easily identified differences when wires were changed. This includes MIT Oracle MAX-SHD speaker cable (retailed for $50k) and MIT Oracle MAX-2 balanced interconnect (we’re not considering low end merchandise). I use these for demonstration comparison.
The few dozen people I’ve shared with came away with a completely different perspective.
But like I’ve stated before in this forum, I’ve given up on trying to share knowledge with individuals. Instead of being a forum where individuals can share experiences and learn from each other, it becomes a "you’re wrong and I’m right" urinating match.
Still not convinced? The editor at Stereophile who has recorded countless audiophile recordings (I forget his name) who reviewed and claimed the Pass XA-60.5’s were the best amplifier he heard at that time because they sounded most realistic. And in that review he confirmed other amplifiers had more realistic bass. Maybe he got it wrong? Pass paid him off - yes, that must be it. Or any one of countless other conspiracy theories.
You can be fine with whatever sound you like (and Jay, I respect what you describe and have defended your position in the past). But goodsource, that doesn’t mean your conjecture is accurate / real.
You know what - you’re 100% right and I’m 100% wrong. Let’s leave it at that. Really - it’s just not worth the time or effort.
Jay - forgive me. I didn’t mean to cause a disagreement in your thread. You have an entertaining and revealing thread and I sincerely wish you the best with it continuing as such.