My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!


So I have been in a long journey looking to find the best amplifiers for my martin logan montis. As you know, the match between an amplifier and speakers has to be a good "marriage" and needs to be blend exquisitely. Right now, I think I might have found the best sounding amplifier for martin logan. I have gone through approximately 34-36 amplifiers in the past 12 months. Some of these are:

Bryston ST, SST, SST2 series
NAD M25
PARASOUND HALO
PARASOUND CLASSIC
KRELL TAS
KRELL KAV 500
KRELL CHORUS
ROTEL RMB 1095
CLASSE CT 5300
CLASSE CA 2200
CLASSE CA 5200
MCINTOSH MC 205
CARY AUDIO CINEMA 7
OUTLAW AUDIO 755
LEXICON RX7
PASS LABS XA 30.8
BUTLER AUDIO 5150
ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005

With all that said, the amplifiers I mentioned above are the ones that in my opinion are worth mentioning. To make a long story short, there is NO 5 CHANNEL POWER AMP that sounds as good as a 3ch and 2ch amplifier combination. i have done both experiments and the truth is that YOU DO lose details and more channel separation,etc when you select a 5 channel power amplifier of any manufacturer.
My recollection of what each amp sounded like is as follows:

ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005 (great power and amazing soundstage. Very low noise floor, BUT this amplifiers NEEDS TO BE cranked up in order to fully enjoy it. If you like listening at low volume levels or somewhat moderate, you are wasting your time here. This amp won’t sound any different than many other brands out there at this volume. The bass is great, good highs although they are a bit bright for my taste)

NAD M25 (very smooth, powerful, but somewhat thin sounding as far as bass goes)
Bryston sst2(detailed, good soundstage, good power, but can be a little forward with certain speakers which could make them ear fatiguing at loud volumes)

Krell (fast sounding, nice bass attack, nice highs, but some detail does get lost with certain speakers)

rotel (good amp for the money, but too bright in my opinion)

cary audio (good sound overall, very musical, but it didn’t have enough oomph)

parasound halo (good detail, great bass, but it still holds back some background detail that i can hear in others)

lexicon (very laid back and smooth. huge power, but if you like more detail or crisper highs, this amp will disappoint you)

McIntosh mc205 (probably the worst multichannel amp given its price point. it was too thin sounding, had detail but lacked bass.

butler audio (good amplifier. very warm and smooth sweet sounding. i think for the money, this is a better amp than the parasound a51)

pass labs (very VERY musical with excellent bass control. You can listen to this for hours and hours without getting ear fatigue. however, it DOES NOT do well in home theater applications if all you have is a 2 channel set up for movies. The midrange gets somewhat "muddy" or very weak sounding that you find yourself trying to turn it up.

classe audio (best amplifier for multi channel applications. i simply COULDNT FIND a better multi channel amplifier PERIOD. IT has amazing smoothness, amazing power and good bass control although i would say krell has much better bass control)

Update: The reviews above were done in January 2015. Below is my newest update as of October 2016:



PS AUDIO BHK 300 MONOBLOCKS: Amazing amps. Tons of detail and really amazing midrange. the bass is amazing too, but the one thing i will say is that those of you with speakers efficiency of 87db and below you will not have all the "loudness" that you may want from time to time. These amps go into protection mode when using a speaker such as the Salon, but only at very loud levels. Maybe 97db and above. If you don’t listen to extreme crazy levels, these amps will please you in every way.

Plinius Odeon 7 channel amp: This is THE BEST multichannel amp i have ever owned. Far , but FAR SUPERIOR to any other multichannel amp i have owned. In my opinion it destroyed all of the multichannel amps i mentioned above and below. The Odeon is an amp that is in a different tier group and it is in a league of its own. Amazing bass, treble and it made my center channel sound more articulate than ever before. The voices where never scrambled with the action scenes. It just separated everything very nicely.

Theta Dreadnaught D: Good detailed amp. Looks very elegant, has a pleasant sound, but i found it a tad too bright for my taste. I thought it was also somewhat "thin" sounding lacking body to the music. could be that it is because it is class d?

Krell Duo 300: Good amp. Nice and detailed with enough power to handle most speakers out there. I found that it does have a very nice "3d" sound through my electrostatics. Nothing to fault here on this amp.
Mark Levinson 532H: Great 2 channel amp. Lots of detail, amazing midrange which is what Mark Levinson is known for. It sounds very holographic and will please those of you looking for more detail and a better midrange. As far as bass, it is there, but it is not going to give you the slam of a pass labs 350.5 or JC1s for example. It is great for those that appreciate classical music, instrumental, etc, but not those of you who love tons of deep bass.

 It is articulate sounding too
Krell 7200: Plenty of detail and enough power for most people. i found that my rear speakers contained more information after installed this amp. One thing that i hated is that you must use xlr cables with this amp or else you lose most of its sound performance when using RCA’s.

Krell 402e: Great amp. Very powerful and will handle any speaker you wish. Power is incredible and with great detail. That said, i didn’t get all the bass that most reviewers mentioned. I thought it was "ok" in regards to bass. It was there, but it didn’t slam me to my listening chair.

Bryston 4B3: Good amp with a complete sound. I think this amp is more laid back than the SST2 version. I think those of you who found the SST2 version of this amp a little too forward with your speakers will definitely benefit from this amp’s warmth. Bryston has gone towards the "warm" side in my opinion with their new SST3 series. As always, they are built like tanks. I wouldn’t call this amp tube-like, but rather closer to what the classe audio delta 2 series sound like which is on the warm side of things.

Parasound JC1s: Good powerful amps. Amazing low end punch (far superior bass than the 402e). This amp is the amp that i consider complete from top to bottom in regards to sound. Nothing is lacking other than perhaps a nicer chassis. Parasound needs to rework their external appearance when they introduce new amps. This amp would sell much more if it had a revised external appearance because the sound is a great bang for the money. It made my 800 Nautilus scream and slam. Again, amazing low end punch.

Simaudio W7: Good detailed amp. This amp reminds me a lot of the Mark Levinson 532h. Great detail and very articulate. I think this amp will go well with bookshelves that are ported in order to compensate for what it lacks when it comes to the bass. That doesn’t mean it has no bass, but when it is no Parasound JC1 either.
Pass labs 350.5: Wow, where do i begin? maybe my first time around with the xa30.8 wasn’t as special as it was with this monster 350.5. It is just SPECTACULAR sounding with my electrostatics. The bass was THE BEST BASS i have ever heard from ANY amp period. The only amp that comes close would be the jC1s. It made me check my settings to make sure the bass was not boosted and kept making my jaw drop each time i heard it. It totally destroyed the krell 402e in every regard. The krell sounded too "flat" when compared to this amp. This amp had amazing mirange with great detail up top. In my opinion, this amp is the best bang for the money. i loved this amp so much that i ended up buying the amp that follows below.

Pass labs 250.8: What can i say here. This is THE BEST STEREO AMP i have ever heard. This amp destroys all the amps i have listed above today to include the pass labs 350.5. It is a refined 350.5 amp. It has more 3d sound which is something the 350.5 lacked. It has a level of detail that i really have never experienced before and the bass was amazing as well. I really thought it was the most complete power amplifier i have ever heard HANDS DOWN. To me, this is a benchmark of an amplifier. This is the amp that others should be judged by. NOTHING is lacking and right now it is the #1 amplifier that i have ever owned.

My current amps are Mcintosh MC601s: i decided to give these 601s a try and they don’t disappoint. They have great detail, HUGE soundstage, MASSIVE power and great midrange/highs. The bass is great, but it is no pass labs 250.8 or 350.5. As far as looks, these are the best looking amps i have ever owned. No contest there. i gotta be honest with you all, i never bought mcintosh monos before because i wasn’t really "wowed" by the mc452, but it could have been also because at that time i was using a processor as a preamp which i no longer do. Today, i own the Mcintosh C1100 2 chassis tube preamp which sounds unbelievable. All the amps i just described above have been amps that i auditioned with the C1100 as a preamp. The MC601s sound great without a doubt, but i will say that if you are looking for THE BEST sound for the money, these would not be it. However, Mcintosh remains UNMATCHED when it comes to looks and also resale value. Every other amp above depreciates much faster than Mcintosh.

That said, my future purchase (when i can find a steal of a deal) will be the Pass labs 350.8. I am tempted to make a preliminary statement which is that i feel this amp could be THE BEST stereo amp under 30k dollars. Again, i will be able to say more and confirm once i own it. I hope this update can help you all in your buying decisions!


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I meant no disrespect to viber when I suggested he record his system playing music he loves. I truly think it would better explain what he's been saying for almost 1500 posts. We could all hear the detail, clarity and neutrality he demands in his own system.....and Jays.
Very clean and detailed without harshness....wonderful!

FWIW...I would keep your day job mum. Some things should remain private.
My guess is it's the high $ gear. I'm more interested in gear that's slightly above my pay grade than gear that's below what I can afford....That's not to say affordable / budget gear can't sound wonderful, it can. My audiophile friends are all slightly over extended and are on the lookout for the next level up.
Interesting article...thx. I was a little surprised to read his thoughts on the following.

"Cones and domes only. Although I’ve spent years listening, at audio shows and in dealers’ showrooms, to horn, planar-magnetic, electrostatic, ribbon, and hybrid speakers of all sorts, I’ve never heard any that produced what I thought was the very highest-fidelity sound. If any of those types of speakers are your thing, that’s great -- but they’ve never been mine, so I can’t include them here."
@mrdecibel

Jay didn't say the Wilson's tweeters or drivers were crapy...don't think he would ever say that. I believe he has had more Wilsons than any other speaker....he must really like them. What he said was
  
"Of course, people can criticize that Wilson uses crappy tweeters or drivers, but these people WILL NOT complain when they blow a driver because the cost to replace them is very little."

I think he was trying to make the point that it's difficult and costly to repair Magico blown drivers. You and one other poster seem to be just waiting to jump on anything Jay says....Can't you be happy with your own thread? Why must you continually poke and jab at the OP of this thread?
I remember Jay having the Magico M3's with their beryllium tweeter. I believe he thought it was very hard on the ears and quickly let that speaker go. Is there that much of a difference between Be tweeters? Jay if you can remember having the M3's, how does their presentation compare to that of the Focal Scala or the Stella's? Could it be that your cables and components you had at the time you had the Magico's were not an ideal match for the Magico's?
I find the tweeters in my YG Carmel 2's very fast and detailed. On good source material and with quality components and cabling the sound is wonderful....with not so good material and lesser components (as with most high end equipment) it's not a great listening experience. YG speakers are not very forgiving.  

BTW...YG does not use beryllium tweeters. They designed their own drivers. The following is from YG's website.

A tweeter that ends the age-old debate of hard dome versus soft dome, by combining the best of both
 Our most complex mechanical invention: a resonance-free soft dome is supported by a stiff, light airframe machined from aluminum billet
The airframe weighs a mere 30mg, but is 14x thicker than a typical hard dome, so its structural strength is vastly superior even to domes made of the most exotic hard materials
This technology was patented by YG Acoustics in April of 2019
I guess the M2's needing subs would depend on what type of music you listen to and your room. I thought you told me the M3's you had were very hard on the ears. Do you think the electronics and cables you had at the time might not have been a good fit? I know you were using Odin1 but can't remember the components.  I'm guessing careful component and cable matching would be critical with the M2 or M3....more so because of the Be tweeter.
OK kren0006....I'll take 'over' on your over/under Focal Stella bet.....how much?
I have a couple of friends that can afford the best of the best and really enjoy music but have a very modest system. They just don't care about getting as close to live music as possible....it just kills me...ugh. Every one of my audiophile friends have spent 2-3 times what they set out to spend or could afford to spend. It seems that in this hobby there is always room for improvement. Knowing that, is what drives us to find a way to make it work even when we can't afford it and know we really shouldn't. It makes us stretch, bend the truth, fib and outright lie to our significant others. We schedule deliveries when our spouse is at work or away. Pay with a cashiers check or cash to cover our tracks. Just like carey said, it's heroin. It's amazing how this hobby drives us and how much pleasure we get from it. I think the people with ultra high end systems don't participate in forums or care to talk about high end audio. Like Mike (Suncoast Audio) said, about 30% of his customers fall into that category.
Policing the police....

Jay, I wish you would have a more open mind about modifying your equipment. It would give you something to do.
@kren0006
Yep you called it but I believe you set the over/under at New Years. I picked over and was way wrong.....good job there bud!
I think siencecop is right. For as long as Jay has been shooting videos of his systems I don't think any speaker has been properly secured to the floor. They have all been on rollers or just sitting on their bases (without spikes). When I bought and applied Nordost SortFut and laser leveled them in, it brought a level of pinpoint focused detail and tight bass that I was stunned and pleasantly surprised.....I do understand that in Jay's situation he needs to move speakers in and out constantly, but to get everything out of a speaker you must either couple or decouple them to the floor.
I don't think he spiked the Sasha DAW's.  I believe they too were on rollers.
viber, so sorry for your loss....I know how you feel.

I just don't understand why people still question Jay's choices. He has always been straight up with his intentions and has explained them many many times. How hard is it to just enjoy the ride?
Well as crude as techno's post was, I think I agree with him. I enjoyed the last video because the music was so different and well, errrrr ah refreshing. Like I posted a few months ago, there is some music that I really enjoy that doesn't sound great on my system but sounds good in my car with the windows down going 85 mph....or on a PA system with a little buzz going on...lol. Thanks Jay for the change of pace.
As far as CONSULTING goes I would rather CONSULT with someone that has owned the component I'm interested in. CONSULTING with a dealer for the most part would yield a referral to products offered by them. CONSULTING with someone who won't make any money on your purchase takes the bias out of the CONSULTING. Jay has owned so many components, speakers and cables and has mixed and matched them to determine best and most musical combos. A very modest CONSULTING fee goes a long way to musical bliss and financial savings. In fact we all enjoy free CONSULTING just by reading this thread and watching the YouTube channel provided by him.
@kren0006

"Here’s my theory on Techno: he really isn’t anti-WC or this journey everyone else seems to be enjoying. And at times like this (given current room state), he is borderline agreeable."

Well kren, I think he's borderline something.

Come on techno....Radio Shack....really? I think you're putting words in my mouth. I said  " Like I posted a few months ago, there is some music that I really enjoy that doesn't sound great on my system but sounds good in my car with the windows down going 85 mph....or on a PA system with a little buzz going on...lol."

I thought the last video was refreshing and sounded good but it definitely wasn't the kind of music that sounds great on an audiophile system. I think we as audiophiles and music lovers want the music we listen to, to sound great played back on our home systems. Sometimes the music we love doesn't sound great on our rig because of many factors....poor recording, compression etc...

Playing Led Zep Black Dog on a 200k system probably isn't going to sound that great. The system will expose the age, recording limitations, compression etc. But play that song on a 1k system and it just might be easier to listen to by not exposing the limitations of the recording as much.

I think the OP was bold in playing those cuts on his rig. Try playing those songs on your system techno and get back to us on that.
Come on kren you of all people should know better than to make a judgement after listening from your phone. I mean it's hard enough to judge a component / speaker listening on a stereo computer or even headphones from a video on YouTube.

@faxer
Being that Jay is very influential and a video and review on his channel would be some of the best advertising you could get. Wouldn't it be in your best interest to find a way to send him a pair of your speakers you have been telling us about all this time? I've known Jay to even split the shipping cost to get a chance to review a product. I would love to see how your speakers compare to the many he has gone through....especially now with the associated equipment he has.
Using my stereo Mac computer I queued up Man In The Moon on the Focal's, Magico's, Wilson's and Maggie's. I listened at least 6 times with each speaker. I concentrated mainly on clarity, definition and pinpoint imaging of Nils vocal presentation. Each speaker was very different the way it presented the vocals and the accompanying guitar. The Focal's were by far the best. Nils voice was pinpoint dead center, highly focused and natural sounding. His guitar was just below the vocal image with by far the most natural acoustic sound. The natural warmth of the guitar was clearly evident. The Wilson's I felt were next best. The vocals were dead center and focused but didn't quite have the natural sound of the Focal's. The guitar sounded good but was more diffused and more spread out over the soundstage vs the Focal's which was just below Nils voice and highly focused. Next I placed the Magico's. Very disappointed here. I found the vocals diffused. The soundstage was vast but nothing was clearly defined. The guitar seemed to be spread out between the speakers, also the tonal balance sounded thin in upper bass and didn't have the richness of the Focal's. I'm guessing the Mpods would alleviate these problems...hopefully. The Maggie's vocal presentation I thought was good but it was spread out and not quite as focused as the others. The guitar sounded like it was coming out in equal parts from both speakers and not centered below Nils voice. The tonal balance was not up to the other speakers, but for the $ I was very impressed with this speaker.  

Being that none of the speakers were properly anchored to the floor I'm sure had a lot to do with precise imaging...had they have been I'm guessing the Magico's and Wilson's would have fared better. As far as the Focal's...wow, the sky is the limit on those speakers!

BTW I have a BA in music from NTSU with my instrument being the guitar. I'm very sensitive to recorded acoustic guitar. The Focal's sounded very close to live natural acoustic guitar to me....well, as close as can be expected played from a YouTube video through a stereo computer....my 2 cents, YMMV
FWIW...because of my room problems I'm a sealed cabinet guy. My YG's interfere less with my room than any ported speaker I've owned. I can see myself (in a couple of years) with the M2's. I was excited when Jay bought (for the 2nd time) a pair of M3's. I believe the M3's are a speaker that needs very careful attention when pairing them with components and cables and of course isolation...same as the Mephisto did. Given time I think Jay could have the M3's performing close to the Stella's...surpassing them in some ways and falling just short in others.

Also, I always wondered how close the YouTube videos really sounded to Jay's actual system live so as a reference point I recorded (with my iphone Xs) several tracks on my system that I'm familiar with. I then played them back on my Mac computer. Aside from the 3D front to back soundstage and of course deep bass I was surprised at how close the videos of my system sounded like my system live.
Absolutely beautiful Jay...can't wait to hear them and get more of your impressions on them.

kren, I need to talk to you about my investments.
"Good measurements will not promise anything when it comes to listening experiments, but bad measurements will always do so. I´ve never heard any speaker or other component perform well if the measurements were lousy.
And this set of measurements is way in the dessert"

Speaking of dessert, I had pumpkin and pecan pie after my Thanksgiving dinner.
@WCSS,

Maybe you should try ricevs' "Life Coaching, psychological and spiritual counseling" (see his homepage for direction) first and see how that goes before embarking on building a 200k system for 15k.
@WCSS,

As long as you have this thread, the YouTube channel and the gear you've been acquiring you will have critics. Seems like some people (even though they participate in your thread and watch your channel) are never happy with your decisions....As far as your statement above...

"When it comes to ac management, ground conditioning, after market circuit breakers, replacing the light pole outside my house, calling florida power and light to come out to replace the transformer outside my house since it’s probably 10 years old, etc etc, i am the wrong guy for that. You are looking at the wrong person. That is a bit above my own OCD."

I find that rather funny. I remember a few years ago I begged you to try Nordost cables...Hell, I begged you to try an aftermarket power cord. You were so stubborn!  

Now you've gone through dozens of aftermarket power cords, IC's, SC's etc... You have a dedicated listening room, room treatments, isolation platforms, footers, AC conditioners, cable risers....Don't sell yourself short. I think you are plenty OCD.
kren, Jay is a big boy and has always been up front about what he likes to listen to and what he can't play on YouTube.

"It wasn't meant as a negative statement, just a reality check that he probably is not gonna listen to suggestions that deviate too much from what he's been doing to this point (and that's not a knock on him either)."

I agree with your statement....however this entire thread is about Jay deviating from what he started. This thread started out ONLY reviewing amps. Jay has expanded (deviated) to preamps, speakers, dac's, cabling, isolation....well you get the idea. This thread has grown and morphed into a living breathing community of followers who support it. I think Jay is interested in what contributors want to hear....he may not play what everyone wants to hear but I think it's important for him to know what his followers are into.

I predict that Jay will (in the near future) mix in a minute or two of jazz or classical music in the YouTube videos....just a taste mixed with his preferred music.
Jay

Just wanted to thank you for the editing you are planning on doing to make it easier for us to hear the differences in cables and component changes. That is a lot more work for you......man nobody does that!

Also if I were looking to buy a Gryphon or a Boulder amp I would love to hear my music played through them. Considering that you can't go to a dealer and hear those amps pitted against each other makes sense to me to have you tailor a music list to my liking for evaluation. Even if it's over YouTube I think you would be one step closer to knowing what suits you with that service. Along those lines I'm excited to hear what grey9hound and viber put together (jazz and classical) selections to be played over your system. I'm not a classical guy but I would love to hear a dynamic piece played through your gear or a straight up jazz trio with no added reverb or processed effects.

Happy Holidays to All

@daveyf

@ron17 please do enlighten me.

OK....sure.  There are some audiophiles who get off on gear more than music, Jay is one of them.  It's the hunt and the knowledge he obtains in trying as much of the industry's high end equipment as possible.  He loves to help people build systems based on what he has personally owned and listened to.  That was his goal when he started this thread and that hasn't changed.  Home audio is personal and very subjective...in every way.  He's not like you or me.  He's unique, and doing exactly what he wants to do.
Hope this helps.

Jay,

I think it was early this year or late last year that you decided you needed to have a thicker skin to deal with some of the characters on this thread. I think it's time to revisit that thought. There's always going to be a few stinkers to deal with on a popular thread or YouTube channel......it's not you, it's them.
  
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

BTW.....a big THANK YOU to the guy who was kind enough to send you his speakers for all of us to hear. Very very cool.
I wonder if Boulder is one of those amps that is so well built that nothing affects their sound...like footers or power cords.
That's possible, but I don't think you were receiving any benefit from the CM amp stands. The boulder feet were resting on the metal frame of the stand, not the filter part of the platform. I think like you said a better test would be to place the amps on a wood stand or Butcher block platform and insert the footers between the amp and the wood stand....but then it would require more settling in time...yikes! If you went that route you should also try the Ultra 6's which require zero break in.
@goodsource
Oh course custom footers made by Boulder are needed to properly distribute weight etc.... I have tried isolation devices, cables and room treatments that DID NOT work with my system but I would not call them pathetic. This thread is about exploring components, speakers, cables and even isolation devices that create a system synergy. If you have read this entire thread you would realize that it's easier said than done. I have a mix of Critical Mass shelves and footers, Stillpoints and Nordost SortKones in my system. I tried a CM shelf under my Mola Mola Makua preamp and it went south, just like it did with Jay and the Boulders....not a good match. I then moved it under my Simaudio 870a amp along with CM footers and it elevated my system to sonic heights not achieved before. Some of the best systems I have heard were supported by CM racks and footers....A while back Jay encountered speaker cables that would not work with his Mephisto....pathetic? No, they were incompatible. I offered Jay my 2 sets of Stillpoints Ultra 6's to try under the Boulder amps. U6's won't need any break in time....will they be a good match for the Boulders? Don't know....but if they don't improve the sound like they have done for thousands of users I wouldn't call them pathetic, I would say they weren't a good match....With all due respect I think you missed the point of seeking out the products that work best together to elevate your system....This hobby / passion of ours is a trial by error game we all must play.
You may be right about that Dave but I would say you get 95% of the benefit of the device immediately upon installing them, as long as they are installed correctly.  
OK goodsourse we get it....you find the company's lack of info on their products appalling and their performance pathetic.
I'm with you kren, I thought presentation #1 was more detailed and focused with longer reverberation time etc... #2 sounded flatter less lively.  I'm not trying to guess where the footers are, just which presentation I preferred.
Well I guess what you are saying is while doing a/b testing and you can see the products you are testing you will like the sound of the product you think you should like....not sure what that statement has to do with this blind test.

Like I stated before I use a mix of Critical Mass, Stillpoints and Nordost SortFut and SortKones. The CM products sounded terrible under my preamp but wonderful under my amp. I could 'see' the CM under my preamp and really wanted it to work / sound good, but that just wasn't the case. I moved footers and shelves (regardless of brand) until my ears told me what was the best combo.....not my eyes.

Again....not every isolation device works best with all equipment.
"I am very very excited to receive my custom-made transparent opus Gen 5 powercords next week. I was told yesterday by Transparent that i will have 95% of the performance with only
a 48 hour break-in time and only miniscule improvements through the 200 hour mark. Now, THAT IS MUSIC to my ears."

Sounds like you are setting yourself up for "What the eyes see, your mind believes" with the new Transparent opus gen 5 PC......You want me to come to your house and blindfold you and switch between PC's so you won't be influenced by what you 'see' and want to like?  lol
Thank you for a very complete and honest review of the CM footers with your Boulder monos. What they did to your system was exactly the opposite of what they did to my system. They gave my system a more natural, holographic, warm yet detailed sound. Like you and I said, the Boulder amps are so well built that isolation does not improve the sound....good news for Boulder owners. Put your money elsewhere......Let me know if you want to sell the footers.
Thank you Jay for taking your time to present these 2 videos.
 
I preferred presentation #2. The vocals, piano and sax (in Liberty) sounded more clear and had a 'you are there feel' to them. Also decay of notes and vocals lingered in the room longer....not sure which presentation had the footers.
I would love to hear riaa's response to the 2 (or more) amps and why question. I believe he has owned more amps than this whole thread put together.