Music bleeding at zero volume


Trying to understand why music continues to play when I have the DAC/pre turned all the way down...

When it’s dead quite in the house - I don’t even need to turn up the volume from zero. It plays loud enough to hear comfortably. Using XLR interconnects. 

Sim Audio W5 power amp
Mertrum Acoustic Jade pre/DAC
bluesound node 2i
Von Schweikerts VR4 floor standing speakers
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@yogiboy 
thanks!!! Do you know where those jumpers are at the ‘edge of the board’? 
@yogiboy I think the jumper setting is only relevant to when the lower jumper is set to fixed. 
... I told you that in case of the fixed position, the outputs conform to Redbook specs and are set by the upper jumper. If the upper jumper is set to the right, max output voltage is 3Vrms for the RCA output, 6Vrms for the XLR. But if you set this jumper to the left, this becomes 2/4V respectively...

I tried moving the upper jumper left keeping the lower jumper on variable (as I want to continue to use the jade as preamp) and it made no difference. Any thoughts? 
Thank you @tvad @yogiboy 

I will try to see how to adjust the internal jumper to reduce the XLR gains by 3db. That’s the best option unless I switch to RCA. But I just bought new Belden 8402 XLR IC’s. 
I reached out to the Metrum Acoustic engineering team, and they are super good at getting back and being helpful. This is taken directly from our email exchange. ........

 It is perfectly normal that you still have a small amount of signal with the volume control completely counter clockwise, as this is inherent to the principle Metrum regulates volume with. We implemented it this way because it sounds better than using a regular potentiometer circuit.

If a gain mismatch between amp and DAC is present, the easiest way to temper the output signal of the Jade is by using a t-pad resistor network in the connectors of the interlink cables. Doing it this way introduces the least distortion. This modification implies that your cables become 'directional' in the sense that one end needs to go into the DAC, and the other end needs to go to the amp (and not the other way around). Please let me know if you are interested in this modification. It requires 4 resistors per channel when using XLR or 2 resistors per channel when using the RCA output. These resistors need to be soldered to the cable.



Unfortunately I am not super handy with tools and think will do more harm then good trying to add resistors to the XLR cables. But I do believe and agree the design on the volume control is superior to your run of the mill components. This is taken from one article I read about the Jade DAC. Again this is for folks that are interested in knowing. Thanks 

........”The Transient Two modules connect directly to the outputs without an extra analogue stage, so volume control in the Jade is achieved by raising and lowering the reference voltage over the R2R circuit. Not by stealing bits from the stream, nor by putting a chip or a potentiometer in the analogue domain. It’s a very clever idea that I have only seen once a long, long time ago”