MSB Diamond DAC V


Looking to try a MSB Diamond V Dac with Diamond Power Base Volume Control and Renderer. As a side note I have had the opportunity to enjoy the Lampizator Pacific, Esoteric Grandioso K1 my 2 favorites, DCS Vivaldi, Chord Dave but never tried the MSB. I was told that it's is a must listen to before I pull the ultimate trigger.

Please feel free to comment on your thoughts regarding what i can expect from the MSB Diamond DAC V.

Thanks. 
128x128blumartini

Showing 9 responses by georgehifi

Jetter
What’s with you?? anti MSB, because that’s what it looks like.

READ!!! He (the OP) said
"I am going to look for either a Lampi Pacific or a MSB Diamond Dac V with all the goodies on the secondary market."
I’m showing him a good one on Audiogon. Butt out!!

Correct, I have no financial interests as I’m also in Australia and definitely NOT an MSB agent. But I do believe they are the front runners and always have been of R2R discrete dacs, others follow, and yes I do own one.

And here it is again for the OP https://www.audiogon.com/listings?q=msb just to get up your nose once more.





There's a few MSB's here on Audiogon, a very nice very nice Platinum IV Plus for $6.5k  https://www.audiogon.com/listings?q=msb

Cheers George
blumartini OP

I was just told the new MSB Premier dac with PB is even better sounding than the Diamond V with PB and it’s cheaper as well.
https://www.msbtechnology.com/dacs/premier-dac-features/

Where you are you can call Suncoast MSB dealer in Florida.

Vince would most probably send you one... hence my ?????
Or even give Vince Galbo a bell at MSB see what he can do for you.

Cheers George
So you believe that MSB Diamond Dac V is the pick of the litter over all the others .
I'm sure the more expensive one are even better, but you've got your sites set on this one, and I say to you you can't go wrong, compared to others mentioned so far.

Cheers George 
There are R2R DACs out there that cost few hundred dollars that don’t even come close in sound quality to high end well implemented Delta Sigma designs.

Don’t you generalize, of course there are, I’m not talking about the cheap R2R junk, that’s when the Delta Sigma’s are the better offerings. But when it’s comes down to the R2R talked about, DS is then a bit of a yawn to listen to in comparison.


blumartini OP
My goal was to eliminate the preamp in the chain and get as much tube like sweetness as I can yet retaining the dynamic swings, bass punch and slam that solid state delivers "Best of Both Worlds" so to speak.

Direct from an MSB R2R using it’s volume control will do exactly that, that’s how mine is run, if the rest of your system is up to it.
But like any source that is very detailed, very dynamic and very transparent, like the MSB range of R2R dacs, if the rest (amp/speakers) are not up to it, then the MSB will show them up.
If your system need taming then you should go to Delta Sigma (dsd) based dacs which are kinder, and not as forcefull with their dynamics, but to me they a bit of a yawn, and don't keep me interested for long. 

Cheers George
my comments were based on user who posted it was missing bottom octave which is 100% contrary to any listening I have had w MSB.
+1
Same here, MSB's R2R dacs have an awesome tight bottom end that needs to be dug out of the floor and your guts it’s that low, but only when it’s presented in the music.
Obviously that owner has a serious defect somewhere in the chain, if he says that the bottom octave is missing, and he’s blaming the wrong thing unless it’s faulty.

Cheers George
blumartini OP
What i can expect from the MSB Diamond DAC V.

Real transparent, dynamic, glare free musical presentation, with great boogie factor. This is what R2R dac’s can do when designed right and used direct into amp/s.
They don’t try to soften everything to make the bad recordings more listenable at the expense of the good recordings like Delta Sigma dacs do.

Cheers George