MSB DAC's Popularity


Hello All,

I would appreciate some insight on the above. I'm in the market for a DAC with volume control and am exploring the Discrete or Premier. I question the lack of reviews and even dialog on AGon? The limited reviews that appear portray stellar performers; however, not many exist on the used market. Are they so good that no one sells? Or, is the price/performance not commensurate and nobody buys? I do love the future-proofing built into their designs! Could you please share your experiences with those who own or have auditioned? I'm looking for an end-game product, if that is even possible in digital. 

Thanks!

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A decision to purchase a DAC at this price range requires research, many conversations, auditions, and more auditions.  I auditioned several DAC ‘s and decided, for me, I liked the sound of a ladder R2R DAC.  Yes, I made mistakes during the way but learned valuable lessons.  I wanted a USA company that supported their products with excellent customer support. 

I own the MSB Premier DAC, Premier Powerbase and Femto 93 clock and like it very much. The addition of this DAC substantially improved my audio system sound quality.  The Premier has four prime R2R DAC’s, 2 per side, a separate power supply and many other features. The Premier Powerbase is offers two dual-link power connectors, supplying four isolated power supplies.  “MSB brochure say they use no off-the-shelf DAC chips, but instead makes their own converters.  Each of the four Prime DACs at the heart of the Premier is a fully balanced, discrete, ladder DAC.   MSB’s ladder DACs use precision-reconfigurable networks of resistors and switches to precisely convert your digital files into music”.

The MSB DAC connects to my Aurender N20 server using the Femto 93 clock to control the data transfer.  The cable from the DAC to my Aurender improved the sound quality.   I use the Analysis Plus Digital Crystal cable for the word transfer.  

I also experimented with an USB and AES/EBU connections for 2 weeks.  After lots of switching back and forth, I prefer the AES/EBU connection.  This is the only option on my MSB DAC.  MSB offers several other options that you need to review and discuss with your retailer.  

The addition of the MSB Premier DAC substantially improved the sound quality of my audio system.  To my ears, everything sounds truly outstanding.  The music is clearer, less dark, better bass and sounds more like music.   I hope this helps. 

 

@ghdprentice Is right in his above post. “Technology used is one thing in high end equipment but it is all about implementation and the blend of components and overall design”. 

This means you have to audition a DAC in your system to ensure you like the resulting sound quality.  Professional reviews are interesting but its your budget and ears.  

MSB Contact Page

Please review the link above for MSB North America Sales Manager info for conversion, demo, etc. as suggested above.  

 

I just upgraded the firmware in my MSB Premier DAC to version 19.14 and it was very easy.  The software upgrade is on their web site in the support tab by product. Please read the MSB firmware upgrade instructions carefully. 

I copied the software upgrade file to a flash drive, inserted it in my Aurender and ran it.  The software upgrade ran very smooth and there were no issues.  Please turn your volume on so you can hear the instructions, etc.  

The screen said 19.14 and everything works.   Amazing.   

My friend has a MSB Reference DAC and recently updated the units firmware.  She suggested I check the MSB web site for updates to my MSB Premier DAC.   I did and found the new firmware version 19.14.

MSB Premier Support Link

You can check the current version of Firmware installed by following these steps:

    • Press the menu button on the front of the unit (Center button with square on it)
    • Turn the volume knob until “Code” is displayed
    • You will see code revision number (my DAC showed an old version number)
    • The current version is 19.14

The Premier DAC – Firmware Update Version 19.14 released 6/30/21. This update includes minor bug fixes and a new mode to power off the Renderer if not used. See manual for details.

From the MSB Support page, I coped the firmware file to a flash drive and inserted it into my Aurender N20 Music Server.   I selected the file, hit play and the upgrade started.   PLEASE TURN YOUR VOLUME ON SO YOU CAN HEAR THE INSTRUCTIONS AND TRACK THE UPGRADE PROGRESS.  The upgrade completed and everything worked perfectly.