Moving a 5,000 vinyl LP collection safely


Hello everyone,

I am moving from New York City to the Hudson Valley. I have packed my 5,000 LPs into boxes that are 13 x 13 x 13.

My questions are:

— Is it OK to stack them up to 4 boxes high? 5? 6? Since there is about 1/2 of space left in the top of each box, bubble wrap is laid over the top of the vinyl to fill the remaining gap before closing and sealing the box so that the boxes stay square and don’t collapse.
— When put in a moving truck with a rear cab that is 10 x 26, should I be worried about how hot it will get in there for a 2 hour ride from New York City to the Hudson Valley when the temperature is expected to be about 80 degrees?

Thank you in advance for your helpful advice.

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Thank you all for your advice! Much appreciated. Where we seem to be netting out:

— Yeah, records used to be shipped in vast quantities to record stores - remember record stores? - in all kinds of conditions, many probably far worse than this. But these are MY records.
— All discs are packed vertically, tight but not squished, in 72 single-sided boxes. All seams are taped with strong plastic shipping tape. They are stacked 4 high. Nothing has started to collapse.
— The 83 degree temperature, for a two hour distance, seems non-threatening.
— I will make sure that the boxes are stacked and strapped so that they cannot move.
— I will move the 78s myself
— And last but not least, the mover just said he is a vinyl collector himself, he is assigning his son to this move to keep an eye on it.

It seems that you cannot get moving insurance without first making an inventory of each and every record. That would mean not moving until December! At least I wouldn’t have to worry about the truck getting hot then.

lewm, I’m moving from NoHo, now the 2nd most expensive residential area (folks who are or once were my "neighbors" are Nora Jones, David Bowie, Keith Richards, Denzel Washington, to name a few) in New York City, to The City of Newburgh on the west bank of the Hudson River. Newburgh is known as the Murder Capital of NY State (Preet Bharara’s first big bust was of a couple of major drug gangs there some 12 years ago: he rounded up over 40 people in one big bust together with the FBI). But since Newburgh also sports the second largest Historic District in the State with gorgeous brick townhouses at prices that are far less than what you would pay in Brooklyn, who cares? When I moved to NoHo in 1976, NoHo was not exactly the safest place in the world either, so this is sort of a going home. Lots of fellow artists are moving there: we like edgy, inexpensive places where there is a sense of community and where we can work collaboratively and where we can afford to experiment. And, it is quiet at night, no noisy bridge and tunnel people (what snobby NYer’s call the folks who come into the city in the evenings and weekends from the suburbs), no gawking European and Japanese tourists. The ground doesn’t vibrate. The night air has a fresh snap to it.

I will let you all know how it goes!
There's a section of Newburgh near the river that is old houses+ gorgeous. I forget what it is called. Yeah, it is a little rough there. I used to drive my sports cars and bikes north and would sometimes come through in one direction or another. 
And agreed, before it was called Noho, that area between the Village and Soho wasn't exactly grandma friendly. We lived in Brooklyn long before it was 'chic' and there were some very "edgy" neighborhoods as well. Now, it is unicorns and 20 dollar cocktails.

The Hudson Valley can be spectacular. Lot's to explore. Good luck w/your move. 
I moved my 5000-7000 collection three times in the last 10 years using The Container Store Supreme Crates, with no damage.  They are perfectly sized for records and can safely be stacked 4 levels.  They hold 80-100 LPs each.
Don't stress this. I just moved 10,000+ LPs from NW Montana to Washington state's Olympic Peninsula. Two U-haul trips of two days each time. Middle of summer with temps routinely > 90F. I used the biggest (non-refrigerated) truck each time and U-haul "Small" boxes. Each box about 1.5 cubic feet. Each box weighed slightly more than 65 pounds.

The U-haul boxes were inexpensive, readily available at larger U-haul locations, and much stronger than some moving boxes I had on hand from Home Depot and Allied Van Lines.

I stacked the LP boxes 4 high and kept them toward the front of the cargo area and centered on the centerline of the truck, with lighter boxes filling out the area from the LP boxes to the walls of the cargo area. Lighter, bigger boxes also got stacked on top of the LP boxes all the way to the ceiling.

The 26' U-haul trucks ride very rough on rough roads, and I can't imagine roads much rougher than the construction area through I-90s Snoqualmie Pass.

Absolutely no damage to any of the records I've unpacked so far. I did all the packing, loading and unloading myself. Some tips:

You want all the contents of your truck tight -- everything snugly packed in side-to-side, top-to-bottom, and front to back. If you leave space between boxes the load will shift around and boxes could split if allowed to move and bounce. Build your load vertically to the ceiling before you start filling the truck from front to back. Every couple of vertical rows use some line or cargo straps to secure the layers. Most rental trucks designed for cargo have rails or wood rub strips on the side walls to secure a line or straps going side to side to secure the load. Imagine how the load will want to move if you have to slam on the brakes, or going through tight turns and pack accordingly.

Make sure you pack each box full. Loosely packing the box can allow the records to move and vibrate inside the box and can lead to ring-wear on the covers. Not having the boxes snugly full will also compromise the strength of the box -- that's why boxes crumple and fail. Absolutely a box will crumple and fail if it is not packed all the way to the top where the flaps fold over and other heavy boxes are placed on top.

Leaving the boxes filled too loosely could also allow LPs to warp, though I doubt it's going to get hot enough long enough to warp any records on your move. Cardboard is an excellent insulator, as are the rest of the contents of the truck. I had zero warpage.

For valuable LPs consider removing the record in its inner sleeve and placing it beside the record jacket with both jacket and LP inside a plastic outer sleeve. This will avoid seam-splits, though I have to say I haven't found any seam-splits in any of the jackets of the LPs I just moved, and the vast majority of them were packed with the LP in its inner sleeve inside the LP outer jacket or cover just like they come from the pressing plant.

Use a dolly to save your back and save time. If you're using boxes smaller than the U-haul "Small" box -- it sounds as if you're using what U-haul calls a "Book" box -- you can easily move four boxes stacked on a dolly or hand-truck. I didn't go more than three of the larger boxes at a time (approximately 195 pounds).

This wasn't the first time I've had to pack up and move house with all my stuff including a large number of LPs. When I was working most of the moves were paid for by my employer. Now that I'm retired it was up to me to move them this last time. Whether moved by me or by a commercial moving company -- and some were good, bad and one was really bad -- I have not had an LP damaged by the moving or storage process.

Hope this helps,

Steve Z 
PS:

Maybe this was covered already but your homeowner's insurance may cover your property during the move (mine does) without any need for special "moving" insurance. Check it out.

Good luck,

Steve Z