More Tubes = Better Sound


I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on the sound quality of using more tubes to get the same power as an amp that uses less tubes? I had a pair of VTL MB 750 and they had 12 tubes for the output. I am looking at an ARC ref 600, however, it is 250 watts less and uses almost 3 times as many tubes as the VTL MB 750's. does anyone know the logic here? I am thinking of passing up on the 609's due to the expense if the tubes, but is there an advantage to using so many tubes?
richdeben

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Hi Audiolabyrinth. I was referring to amps from the same vintage, with the same basic circuitry. For example, the Jadis JA30 vs. the JA80 vs. the JA500, or the original Krell KSA50 vs the KSA 100, and the KSA 80 vs. the KSA 200. Subjective observations, of course. You're comparing amps from different generations.

Atmasphere's answer is interesting to me, as he is an excellent designer of some very fine amplifiers of different power ratings. Ralph, what are the advantages to having a lot of tubes, assuming that you have very efficient and sensitive speakers (the OP has some very efficient Klipsch speakers)?
Generally, I would say the less amplifying devices in an amplifier, be they tubes or transistors, the shorter the signal path and the better the sound. That may explain why, at least in my experience (using Jadis, Krell and ARC amps in the past), assuming a speaker load that's not power-hungry, lower-powered amplifiers by a manufacturer generally have sounded better to me than the same manufacturer's higher-powered offerings using similar circuits, though the higher-powered units might offer superior power reserves and macro-dynamics for difficult speaker loads. I suppose an advantage to using more tubes (assuming they're the same type of tubes) to produce less power might be that the tubes are being pushed less hard and might therefore last longer, but I will defer to those in this community with more technical knowledge than I for the advantages.