More questions about dedicated lines


We are moving to a new house built in 2007  and I am fortunate enough to be able to move a wall to create a room with golden ratios. I will need to run some new electric and it gives me the opportunity to run dedicated lines.  I have spent countless hours rummaging through the 7k discussions on this topic and have a decent idea of what is needed.  My plans are to have four runs of Romex 10/2, one each for each monoblock VAC signature 200's, my digital, and my Audiokinesis swarm which has not be set up yet.  I estimate the runs to be conservatively 45 feet including up and down distances. All runs will be of equal length ending in SR  outlets. They will be separate from each other and all other lines and no metal staples will be used.  When I told him I my goal was to have the best sound he offered a suggestion that I hadn't come across in my electrical education here on the gon.  He suggested placing what sounded like a commercial power regenerator with a large battery bank as the first step out of the breaker box and running lines from this.  The other options were to run from a preexisting sub panel that has the pool pump and a few lights on it, but nothing else.  Third is straight out the breaker box.  He wanted to put the runs closest to the utility line in, stating that there will be less noise upstream than downstream, but this puts these lines next to a big double breaker (cant' remember what it is but is sure to be noisey).  He understands that I want all lines on the same phase, or line,leg.  My questions are: Of the three options, which would be best?  Is there anything else needed to minimize the risk of ground loop hum if I use separate hot, return, and gound for each line and not share ground neutrals and keep all lines separated from themselves and other lines.  If going through a subpanel with little on it, how do I manage to keep all runs on the same phase without unbalancing the breaker? A third tangential question-Is it best to use metal or plastic housing boxes for the receptacle? The question of durability of the plastic fatiguing and breaking following repeated plugging and unplugging has been mentioned but I didn't see an answer.  Finally, a huge thank you to jea and almarg for their voluminous responses in all the prior electrical discussions-I got an education.  Sadly, I still don't speak electricalese.
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Showing 3 responses by millercarbon

Much like everything else, the only way to really know is to try and listen. Standard audiophile practice is to change only one thing, since if you change several things at once its impossible to know what did what.

Logically then it is at least unlikely, if not downright impossible, to know which of all these different ideas is going to work best without having actually tried and compared.

Who here has done that?

I mean, besides me?
Ouch. Oh well. There are those who "know" because they "think" and there are those who know because they have done- AND HEARD.

I find solace in thinking those who throw away vast sums on bad advice have such vast sums they won’t even notice.

One thing I cannot quite figure out though. If the whole point is to get better sound, why take advice from people who say right up front they can’t hear? Especially when at the same time they are admitting they don’t know, because they haven’t done?

Oh well. Your money. Throw a match, watch it burn for all I care.
The battery bank, hands down. Only close to the room, not panel. Then run one large gauge line to your power conditioner. Everything plugs into that. None of this multiple lines stuff. With the battery regeneration you can further improve the pseudo off-grid situation by putting that same circuit (to the conditioner) on a dedicated ground. An actual copper stake in the ground ground. Everything system plugs into that. And nothing else. Everything else, lights, etc, run as many lines for that as you want.

Something nobody ever seems to think of in the race to recommend more and more stuff, is every wire is an antenna. Its what an antenna literally is- a wire. Every wire in the house is an antenna. Each one gathering RFI & EMI noise. So why on Earth would you want to be running more of those into your system? Anyone? Beuller?

And oh, I know, the battery with the ultra-pure power? Let's put it as far away from the system as we can, and run as many wires as we can... this is what passes for "thinking" on the inter web.