Monster Regret!!


Good morning to the community!  Years ago, when I was much younger and a whole lot dumber, I bought into all the Monster cable hype.  I even went as far as purchasing their Monster Power AVS 2000 voltage stabilizer and HTS 5000 reference power center.  I’m currently saving my ducats for a PS Audio DirectStream Power Plant 15 and intend to install a dedicated line shortly. 

I am listening to Martin Logan 11As driven by PS Audio BHK 300 monoblocks.  I have the amps connected via a normal 120v home outlet.  My question, should I use the Monster Power stuff for my speakers, pre/pro, etc. or go to another outlet directly to the components? 

 

Many thanks!  

an10490413

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Monster made decent equipment. nothing wrong with it.  There are better equipment out there and also worse.

A point of clarification, Ground Loops are not caused by connecting to different outlets.  Ground loops are caused (mostly) by poorly designed/constructed equipment that do no incorporate proper grounding techniques.  Lack of proper cable shielding, etc.  If outlets are connected properly and to code, then the home grounding schemes are correct.  Sometimes outlets and boxes are not grounded properly.  That is a different issue.

In my family room where the TV/home theater system is located, I still use my trusty Monster Signature HTPS-7000 unit.

for my 2 channel listening room, I ran four separate dedicated lines.  each dedicated line has it's own hot, neutral and ground that is not shared with any other circuit and is run all the way back to the service panel.  

My amps are plugged directly into their own dedicate wall outlets.  The low level equipment (pre-amp, tuner, DAC, Turntable power supply, Electronic Crossover, Music Server, CD Transport) are all plugged into a Transparent Audio Power Conditioner, which is in turn plugged into it's own dedicated line.

I have done direct comparisons with and without the power conditioner and also before and after with the dedicated lines, and my noise floor dropped substantially. it is extremely silent.  

In any case, for the money, Monster projects are just fine.  Also, all manufacturers have some form or another of hype in marketing their products.  Monster is no different.

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@roberttdid;  sorry but I disagree with your assessment regarding the cause of ground loops.  Since it is physically impossible to connect all equipment to the same outlet, and most people actually have dedicated lines installed directly to the panel, that negates that argument.  

My experience has been that each and every ground loop I have found/diagnosed and cured was caused by poorly designed equipment that had poor internal ground schemes or poorly designed cables.

Isolating each piece until the actual culprit for the ground loop is found has been successful.  And it had absolutely nothing to do with the outlets or how many.  If ground loops were caused by connecting equipment to different outlets, then everyone would have ground loops all the time and that just isn't the case.

voltage differential on the ground path is the textbook reason.  However, what is causing the voltage difference in the first place?  That is what I was discussing earlier.

Also, there is a balance where companies become the 800 pound gorilla. most companies try hard to protect their patents or "brand".  laws are written and enforced based on the country.  Some are more open than others.  Some companies try hard to force you to use only their products and try to kill competition leaving only themselves as a monopoly.  

Sony, Phillips, and many others tried and failed.  Mostly because technology doesn't sit and wait and other's develop newer technology.

Now CDs are phasing out and streaming is taking over slowly.  But with streaming, you don't own the material anymore.  I'm not sure I like that.  I'm trying to get away from have a monthly payment for everything.  

As I said, Monster made decent products for the money.  I wouldn't consider it high end, but they were okay.

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