Monoblocks vs Vertical bi-amping vs Horizontal bia


In attemps to raise the sonic bar of my system, I'm considering my options which includes using a single stereo amp, mono blocks, or 2 stereo amps in either a vertical or horizontal biamped configuration.

Q1: Who out there has experience in how each of the above scenarios differs from one another. If you read Dennis Had's article on vertical biamping at his Cary web site, you'd think that that is the way to go but how does this differ from monoblocks which accomplish the same thing (i.e. one amp used per channel for all frequencies)?

Q2: In which situations do the various amp scenarios best lend themselves (room size, listening levels, speaker sensitivity and ohm rating etc. etc.)?

Thanks for your input.

Kevinzoe
kevinzoe

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I will be trying Verticle amping and from what I have read it is better to have an outboad active crossover and drive each speaker with it's own amplification in order to make the driver's run more efficiently.Dedicated amps is what I would call it.There are those who say that having the same amplification by manfactures is better though so the best thing to do is experiment if you can.

There are alot of post regarding it.but my speaker's designer has talked to me about having an active outboard crossover being the main thing.It makes sense to me also.

All depends on a few factors as to what might be cheaper.

How much power
Quality of amps
Class Amp A-A\AB-D
Cables
XO unit

Horizontal would be the more economical choice.For the Bass you need like 2-3X more power then the Mid & Tweeter's or individually.The Tweeters are the least power consuming driver's.

probably there are more variables that determine cost.I want to go vertical,but I have to wait,see and decide then buy.
Kevinzoe
It would be ideal to have Mono amps to drive each driver to each speaker.That being said it is also very expensive using world class amps plus the active crossover.If you have the $$ go for it.
You would be taking the drag out of an amp being used to compensate for 2-3 driver's.

Using an outboard active XO you are bypassing the internal XO within the speaker unless you use that same XO and reconfigure it to add Pots and circuits for adjusting for output.There is no use for it.Wth an Active XO you would using control pots to compensate for how much power is being used for each driver.

Believe me I am new to the equation also,but it is what pro's are going into now.One I read recently does not see buying any speaker over $500 without it having an outboard active XO.

SET's are not ideal amps to use in this configuration as someone had mentioned.I think a Dual Mono amp might suffice instead of Monoblocks to save space and get the same results.

You have to look at the driver efficientcy also.Tweeter's might not need 300watt amps unless you are driving the Mids\Tweeters with the same amp or going the vertical route.

I am in the process of getting my speaker's and will know more then.It shall be intresting.

The thing to remember about which ever way you decide to amp is that you are freeing up watts so that the driver's can be driven more efficiently.Weather going Vert or Horz brings about better sound has alot to do with a number of factor's.

In the final analysis you will be getting better results because you are freeing up the power to be dedicated to individual driver's.

What drives me nuts is what amps I should use to get the best performance.I have 2 B&K's and it might be wise to use the same Manf..I would only use B&K's that have been modified though ,so that brings up cost.I might use a Adcom,McCormick for Bass and B&ks for the Mids and Tweeter's.Class A or A\AB amps that are biasd to run closer to ClassA are the best amps to use in any situation.Monarchy and Black Knight amps are good choices.Then you get into Krell territory which gets to be ultra expensive.Some even use Bryston amps.SO you have to do some research.

KEF I believe is well aware of these things and and give you the option tp add an outboard XO at a later time .So I would consult with them to see what they have had good experience with or other KEF owner's also.I think that's what your speaker's are.

I found this all confusing at first myself and it will be experimentation till I get it all set up,but there are advantages to doing it.I am a purist and this seems a step in that direction from everything I have been told.It was the original designer of my speaker's that got me intrested in this trend and he is very knowledgeable.

Hope that helps!
Forever Hifi--I tend to agree when havinf to save $$.I still need to see what my designer is up to so it's a wait and see game for myself,but I know I will be satisfied with whatever the outcome.

I tend to agree with your assertion that Parasound might be a good amp to use on the bottom end.Also Adcom,McCormickand Aragon are to be looked at closer as the Bass units will be hungry for power and current the Mids & Tweeter's I might beable to get by with far lees power and have them being driven by moderate powerd amps.

Thx!
I would think that Biamping would be a bene as you would be dedicating an amp to different driver's freeing up power and giving them resreves to use.