Monitor SPL vs. Full-Range SPL


I see threads where people ask "How loud do you listen?" Wouldn't there be a difference in SPL if your speakers have more bass?
So 80db for a monitor flat to 55 hz could be equal to 85-90dB in a full range speaker which is flat to 20hz. If a speaker is very bright, I would think that could be 75dB SPL for equal perceived volume level.
Any thoughts?
cdc

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The point is, if a speaker has increased bass output because of increased FR range overall SPL will be higher. Consider this, if speakers are set to 80 db playing a 1kHz test tone, SPL will not be the same when playing white noise since the full range speaker plays deeper in the bass (audible or not, it will still measure on an SPL meter).
I am thinking bright speakers will be played quieter since subjectively they sound louder since bass notes are not heard but more felt.
Thanks Acoustat6 for getting what I was trying to say. Here's another novel thought.
I am thinking people have a "reference" volume level which is set at the ear's most sensitive frequency. This is ~3,000 hz I think and is the x-over point for many speakers. If someone listens at 90 dB, it would be 90dB at that frequency.
I know my B&W's have a 8+ dB spike at 3-5,000hz and that spike limited how loud I would listen. See, 80dB overall actually gave me 90dB at 3-5,000hz and that was too loud to my ears. So I usually listened at 70dB to keep that spike at tolerable levels.
Shadorne, that is interesting. The experts say SPL is what damages the ears but I agree more with what you are saying. From what I remember, the experts say all that bass you hear thumping in cars will damage your ears. But I think the serious flaw in this common knowledge is how high frequencies can damage the ears even at moderate volume SPL's.
Why?
I don't think a 1-4 kHz tone really puts out much SPL compared to a 20 hz tone. So when you start hitting 80-90 db at 1kHz, THAT is some serious volume.
It's too bad the experts don't make this more clear as damage to hearing has less to do with white noise / full range SPL's than all the hype would lead us to believe.