I got the Krell KC 100 which is identical with Miyabi Standard. Looks like new to me while this cart is from the 80is. Like Stanwal I have never worn out any stylus so far. I assume that the cantilever/stylus by Miyabi 47 is the same or similar to that of the Standard? Well if that is true I have a good news for you. Axel's pressure fitted line contact in aluminum cantilever retip is nearly identical to Miyabi Standard. Cost +/- 190 Euro. |
Hi Pani, Takeda also made his Standard for Levinson (Cello) so depending on what you need to pay for the 47 you can also look if you can find the mentioned Krell or Cello. I have never heard any complaint about the Standard. |
Dear Syntax,'it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks (sounds) like a duck, it probable is a duck'. But I understand when 'someone' pay the full price for his Miyabi Standard this 'someone' does not like to hear that someone else got the same 'duck' for 1/4 of the price. I am grateful for your advice to look for this 'duck' but we from the Balkans enjoy in particular such kind of coincidence. Some of us need to 'enjoy' such a 'pleasure' for the rest of our life. I bought this Krell KC 100 a la Raul: 'one never knows'. Beside with the (metal) box I was staggered by the looks: 'looks like a duck'...etc. I was even more flabbergasted by the sound by my first test in my second system which function as my labaratory. After 20 min. this cart was the first to make the promotion to my main system. 'It' (the duck) got the company of my Reed 2A and substituted the previous occupant the Phase Tech P-3G. If I only can find the Cello which looks to me like a real beauty. Regards, |
Hi Gilles, I heard about this MLC-1 but was confused because of Levinsons involment. So I thought that 'Cello' is the same as MLC-1. To add to the confusion there seems to be also the Klipsch version of 'the same' cart. To comfort or reassure my friend Syntax I need to mention that there are some differences between 'his' and 'my' Miyabi Standard : 0,2 versus 0,25 mV and 2 Ohm versus 4 Ohm in the 'his'- 'my' order. The 47 labs I would never buy because of the (plastic)looks, not to mention the performance.
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Dear Stich, I wish that I invented this different 'quacks'. But the basic proposition was that they 'quack' in the same way as they look. I thought about to promote Syntax specimen to a better looking duck but was confronted with the same 'logical' problem because they are 'per definition' looking the same. So I give up verbal diferentiation and used numerical kind. But, alas, those are never funny. BTW who cares about difference between 0,2 and 0,25 mV or 2 Ohm versus 4 Ohm? However the price difference may still hurt.
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Dear Stitche, You seem to be an 'grand master' in mis interpreting my statements. I assume that your intention is to provoke some Balkan answers from my side. Well my statement was that Syntax owns a better looking duck than others but because of the logical difficulties involved (x=y=z, qua looks) I was forced to use numerical instead of verbal description for your 'beatiful duck'. But to me 'owning something' and 'being something' are different categories. Ergo: Syntax is not a duck. To be honest I really thought that all those LOMC's were like 'our ducks'. Say only marginaly different and because of this 'subjective opinion' my opinion about myself would be very disturbed with any price above,say, $3000. So you can imagine my feelings by my discovery that I am not deaf or, which is the same, was able to hear clear difference between my 'new duck' and +/-20 other kinds of birds (aka carts) that I own. I deed shout 'Heureka!' and though about you because you was 'the one' who told me about the Miyabi Standard in the first place. Regards, |
Dear Gilles, While I was very glad for myself and sorry for Syntax by each new discovery of Takeda's American 'ducks' you are obviously aiming at confusing and complicating the issue. The more of those 'ducks' the better chance to get some more for cheap. Such a kind of guy I become because of the MM thread. I decided 20x already to stop with this sickly habit to start each day with searching on ebay for new/old MM carts but, alas, the sickness in casu seems to be not curable. My 'solution' is to do the opposite and convince this way my other egos that I am doing something totally different. I look at present only for the LOMC's and those American ducks in particuar. Are you in the position to put them all in a ranking order such that anybody can see what to look for?
Regards,
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Hi Pani, I assume that you mean with 'superb and funny' me in particular? As a service in return look at: schallplattennadeln.de. Axel Schurhoz is discovered by Raul and me while many members are already convinced reg. his upgrad/retip capabilities. If your cantilever is aluminum you should ask Axel for: pressure fitted line contact stylus in a aluminum cantilever. This is his best and mostappealing (qua price) 'retip'. What is more 'it' looks the same as the other 'ducks'. I can compare with the cantilever/stylus in my Virtuoso and both look the same to me. Regards, |
Dear Stiche, I noticed your particle physics explanation on 'what happens in a cart' but I always wanted to ask the following question for which some 'courage' is needed. Ie nobody like to ask stupid questions. But considering the prices of all those copper or silver wire my pragmatic ego won from my super ego. I want ask how those particles know which way to go but like to check my assumption that wherever they go they 'choose', so to speak, the most easy 'passage'. So if my assumption is correct they will avoid all those soldering 'points' and travel confortable through the least resistant matter (metal) involved. While my American 'duck' got the luxure of my most expensive tonearm with the (very expensive) cryo treated wire from tags till the phono-pre I am emotionly still bonded with my FR-64s with not only an removable headshell but also with many 'soldering points'. Only to you I will confess that I am not able to hear any difference between, say , 'one single piece' of wire and those 'interrupted' by lead/silver soldering points. My confession is at the same time my answer to Halcro's question : 'do you hear any difference between both kinds (removable/other) of headshells?'.
With Balkan greetings,
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