Miyabi 47 cartridge: How many hours does it last ?


I have an opportunity to buy a used Miyabi47 cartridge. What is the typical life expectancy of this cart, considering it is well maintained ? How many hours does it really sing without any significant deterioration ?

I remember reading somewhere it only does 1000 hours before starting to lose its magic :(. Is it true ?
pani

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I got the Krell KC 100 which is identical with Miyabi Standard. Looks like new to me while this cart is from the 80is. Like Stanwal I have never worn out any stylus so far. I assume that the cantilever/stylus by Miyabi 47 is the same or similar to that of the Standard? Well if that is true I have a good news for you. Axel's pressure fitted line contact in aluminum cantilever retip is nearly identical to Miyabi Standard. Cost +/- 190 Euro.
Hi Pani, Takeda also made his Standard for Levinson (Cello)
so depending on what you need to pay for the 47 you can also
look if you can find the mentioned Krell or Cello.
I have never heard any complaint about the Standard.
Dear Syntax,'it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks (sounds) like a duck, it probable is a duck'. But I understand when 'someone' pay the full price for his
Miyabi Standard this 'someone' does not like to hear that someone else got the same 'duck' for 1/4 of the price. I am grateful for your advice to look for this 'duck' but
we from the Balkans enjoy in particular such kind of coincidence. Some of us need to 'enjoy' such a 'pleasure' for the rest of our life. I bought this Krell KC 100 a la Raul: 'one never knows'. Beside with the (metal) box I was staggered by the looks: 'looks like a duck'...etc.
I was even more flabbergasted by the sound by my first test in my second system which function as my labaratory. After 20 min. this cart was the first to make the promotion to my main system. 'It' (the duck) got the company of my Reed 2A and substituted the previous occupant the Phase Tech P-3G. If I only can find the Cello which looks to me like a real beauty.
Regards,
Hi Gilles, I heard about this MLC-1 but was confused because of Levinsons involment. So I thought that 'Cello' is the same as MLC-1. To add to the confusion there seems to be also the Klipsch version of 'the same' cart. To comfort or reassure my friend Syntax I need to mention that there are some differences between 'his' and 'my' Miyabi Standard : 0,2 versus 0,25 mV and 2 Ohm versus 4 Ohm in the 'his'- 'my' order. The 47 labs I would never buy because of the (plastic)looks, not to mention the performance.

Regards,
Dear Stich, I wish that I invented this different 'quacks'.
But the basic proposition was that they 'quack' in the same way as they look. I thought about to promote Syntax specimen to a better looking duck but was confronted with the same 'logical' problem because they are 'per definition' looking the same. So I give up verbal diferentiation and used numerical kind. But, alas, those are never funny. BTW who cares about difference between 0,2 and 0,25 mV or 2 Ohm versus 4 Ohm? However the price difference may still hurt.

Regards,
Dear Stitche, You seem to be an 'grand master' in mis interpreting my statements. I assume that your intention is to provoke some Balkan answers from my side. Well my
statement was that Syntax owns a better looking duck than others but because of the logical difficulties involved (x=y=z, qua looks) I was forced to use numerical instead
of verbal description for your 'beatiful duck'. But to me 'owning something' and 'being something' are different categories. Ergo: Syntax is not a duck.
To be honest I really thought that all those LOMC's were like 'our ducks'. Say only marginaly different and because of this 'subjective opinion' my opinion about myself would be very disturbed with any price above,say, $3000.
So you can imagine my feelings by my discovery that I am not deaf or, which is the same, was able to hear clear difference between my 'new duck' and +/-20 other kinds of
birds (aka carts) that I own. I deed shout 'Heureka!' and though about you because you was 'the one' who told me about the Miyabi Standard in the first place.
Regards,
Dear Gilles, While I was very glad for myself and sorry for
Syntax by each new discovery of Takeda's American 'ducks'
you are obviously aiming at confusing and complicating the
issue. The more of those 'ducks' the better chance to get
some more for cheap. Such a kind of guy I become because of
the MM thread. I decided 20x already to stop with this
sickly habit to start each day with searching on ebay for
new/old MM carts but, alas, the sickness in casu seems
to be not curable. My 'solution' is to do the opposite
and convince this way my other egos that I am doing something
totally different. I look at present only for the LOMC's and
those American ducks in particuar. Are you in the
position to put them all in a ranking order such
that anybody can see what to look for?

Regards,
Hi Pani, I assume that you mean with 'superb and funny' me in particular? As a service in return look at: schallplattennadeln.de. Axel Schurhoz is discovered by Raul and me while many members are already convinced reg. his upgrad/retip capabilities. If your cantilever is aluminum you should ask Axel for: pressure fitted line contact stylus in a aluminum cantilever. This is his best and mostappealing (qua price) 'retip'. What is more 'it' looks the same as the other 'ducks'. I can compare with the cantilever/stylus in my Virtuoso and both look the same to me.
Regards,
Dear Stiche, I noticed your particle physics explanation
on 'what happens in a cart' but I always wanted to ask the
following question for which some 'courage' is needed. Ie
nobody like to ask stupid questions. But considering
the prices of all those copper or silver wire my pragmatic ego
won from my super ego. I want ask how those particles know
which way to go but like to check my assumption that wherever
they go they 'choose', so to speak, the most easy
'passage'. So if my assumption is correct they will avoid
all those soldering 'points' and travel confortable through
the least resistant matter (metal) involved.
While my American 'duck' got the luxure of my
most expensive tonearm with the (very expensive)
cryo treated wire from tags till the phono-pre I am emotionly
still bonded with my FR-64s with not only an removable headshell
but also with many 'soldering points'. Only to you I will
confess that I am not able to hear any difference between,
say , 'one single piece' of wire and those
'interrupted' by lead/silver soldering points.
My confession is at the same time my answer to
Halcro's question : 'do you hear any difference
between both kinds (removable/other) of headshells?'.

With Balkan greetings,