Millercarbon's Mega Vibration Control Journey


Vibration control is such a huge, and hugely important, topic it deserves a thread of its own. There was a time I thought it nuts to say such a thing. In fact I wrote a letter to the editor excoriating them for wasting my time on the goofy idea that clamping components between shelves could have any effect on sound at all, let alone be worth spending good money on a rack designed to do just that. This was the Michael Green rack, and thanks to my closed mind and dismissive attitude I never did bother to try and find out for myself if there was anything to it.  

Important Lesson Number One: Don't be so quick to dismiss things just because you can't understand how they could work. 

Couple years later unpacking a McCormack DNA1 amp the Owner's Manual says the included spike can be used to improve sound quality. Well now. As crazy as it still sounded this time its Steve McCormack, and he's already given me the spike, so what do I have to lose? Much to my surprise it did indeed improve the sound. Not a lot. But definitely more detail, clarity.  

This is very early 1990's. There is no internet. I know precisely zero audiophiles. Until stumbling upon this one guy at work who says oh yeah and put your CDP on a phone book, and another one on top. Which sounded even crazier but the guy was serious and this being the 90's we all had phone books laying around so I gave it a shot. This time it was only the most barely perceptible improvement, but it was there. If you really listened for it. So not much. Then again, free. Wrapped some fabric around it, ran the CDP like this for quite some time. 

Around this time I'm shopping for components for my new listening room when this guy is more excited about something called Black Diamond Racing Cones than the amp or whatever he was trying to sell me. So I get 3 of these things and they're so much better than the phone book its hard to believe! Well, okay, it was a phone book. Got to compare against something, right? 

These Cones are so good I take them to this Seattle audiophile club and show them around all excited and.... nobody cares. Except this one guy who goes on and on about how he has tried phone books, tennis balls, racquet balls, styrofoam, cones, spikes, on and on everything under the sun, he's tried it all there's just no way he's gonna be impressed- he makes this very clear to me- but okay you're the new guy let me borrow em why not. But they're not gonna work. No way. 

Next day this guy calls me up gushing going on and on how great these are what are they again where did you find em how many can I get? I actually wind up becoming the Washington State distributor for Black Diamond Racing selling Cones, Shelf, all of it. This guy winds up like me, pretty much everything on BDR.  https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367  

A lot of what I knew about vibration control back then was based on my own experience with BDR, and learning from owner DJ Casser. This resulted in what became my guiding principles of vibration control: Mass, Stiffness, and Damping.
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Showing 5 responses by turnbowm

"....I actually wind up becoming the Washington State distributor for Black Diamond Racing selling Cones, Shelf, all of it....."

Now I see why you were always pushing BDR cones. Do you also have a financial relationship with SR?  
@millercarbon - You never answered my question regarding SR, but I think the answer is rather clear.
oldhvymec1,338 posts11-06-2020 8:19am
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242 posts11-06-2020 6:48am@millercarbon - You never answered my question regarding SR, but I think the answer is rather clear.

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If you read he did answered you, the one time he will. You got your shot across the bow, and he sunk your row boat... :-)"

MC made NO mention of SR whatsoever in his reply to me. That aside, being a Navy veteran I enjoyed your nautical humor. Thanks!

millercarbon
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11-05-2020 6:50pm

"....Okay so here's how it works. You take a jab like that, turnbowm, boy do I hope you got your money's worth. Because congratulations, you made the list. This is the one and only response from me you will ever get.  I am my own moderator, and you are banned. I see your name, I stop reading. Got it? Good....."

Knowing that I will no longer be a recipient of your condescending arrogance is like a gift. Thanks, much appreciated! 
oldhvymec1,347 posts11-07-2020 12:15pm"I must apologize. LOL If you could have seen it it was pretty dramatic.
I guess it was not for everyone... Was off subject a bit.. But Dads vary.... LOL War Dogs are War dogs.. We get to enjoy EVEN the the right to delete.."

I read your post before it disappeared and saw nothing wrong with it, but apparently someone thought differently. In these chaotic times, I guess that any mention of violence or guns is frowned upon.