Dear @edgewear : Very good tonearm and the damping issue will be defined by your listening tests like with the MAX one you own.
The damping oil is a must with the Audiocraft and for the MAX/Exclusive is up to the owner.
In my case I used with damping oil and tested from 10k cst to 50k cst and obviously with the quantity too. You have to try and decide about.
The internal rewiring on those vintage tonearms is a must to do it too, made it by a good professional source and te wire could be the one from Audio Note UK.
Enjoy it,
R.
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Dear @askye : Read the first page of this old thread where some gentlemans said that apparently the Pioneer tonearm was builded by MS that was the designer/manufacturer of the MAX 282 and they said that because in some ways looks more or less similar to the 282. In the other side you can read the OP opinion and from other very high knowledge owners of the MAX 282.
Even that I never had on hand the Pioneer tonearm you are asking for I think that if was designed by Micro Seiki they does not shared with the Exclusive tonearm the incredible and unique gyroscope type in the pivot tonearm bearing and this makes a difference for the better.
Other unique characteristic in the 282 is that's a tonearm balanced design where Micro Seiki created a mechanism for set up the VTF with out adding resonances that makes degradation to the cartridge signal. Things are that only the GST-801 and MAX 282, uses a non resonance mechanism where all the other balanced tonearm designs uses a spring to set up the VTF that rings as a bell degrading the cartidge signal this is the way how were designed the terrible FR/Ikeda tonearms an even the SME that I own but that I use in static way.
Now, Exclusive is the top Pioneer line and always a challenge for any audio product manufacturers.
In both cases, Exclusive and MAX 282, it’s a must that the tonearm will be rewired internally in those removable arm wands.
R.
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Dear @askye : It depends if the one you can buy comes with two arm wands: and S shape and straigth one where this is for high compliance cartridges as the ones you own it. The S shape can works too using low weigth headshells.
The best alternative is to find out the MAX 282 that comes with 3 arm wands: two straigth ones with different effective mass and one J shaped. I really like the MAX 282 that's a very well damped design.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
Dear Logenn: As Thuchan pointed out the best " solution " is goes from very up-front ( tonearm-cartridge connectors. ) down to the phono stage input ( no SUT Thuchan because there are, between other things, additional " joints ". ).
I already tested no less than 20 different tonearm wires ( internal wire. ) and there are several that IMHO are better performers ( neutral. ) than the Ikeda one that I tested too.
Two of them are the Audio Note ( UK. ) and this one:
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ra%C3%BAl/Mis%20documentos/silver%20wire.htm
That Dertonarm used in the last 20 years the Ikeda IMHO only menas that in that subject he does not grow-up/improve.
Crystal that you are using is very good too as is Nordost one.
Btw, as usually I'm not commercialy biased on this internal wire subject.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear T-bone: Sorry, here it is:
www.1877phono.com/tonearm_wire.html
Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: +++++ " warmer and even more brilliant. " +++++
if you read my post I writed the word " neutral " as a main factor to analize which and how different wires performs and are " seated ".
Warmer and brilliant are not IMHO " neutral " but colored ones and this is not what I looking for.
I respect your priorities that can't be exactly similar to mines.
Anyway, what I posted is my opinion after that deepest tonearm wire tests.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: I understand you. I'm not saying that the Ikeda ones are not good because they are what I'm saying is that over a " serious " tests on three different audio systems along other 19 cables/wires there are other cables that IMHO are " dead neutral " against the Ikeda.
Two of those audio systems are really accurate where the third ( tubes ) has some colorations. During the tests at the end all those cables I name it outperform the Ikeda in all three systems.
The tests were not at random but following an " strict " process that include ( between other things ): same groves between the same LPs tracks ( grooves that I know as my palm's hand. I even know from which side and how many and which kind of ticks/pops have those LP grooves. ), even SPL, no other system change but the tonearem wires, relaxed mood, time/day hours tests with the lower background place noises, same cartridge/tonearm set up overall process, etc, etc.
Of course at the end this is only my opinion but as always the important one is yours because you are the one that must live with those wires.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Dertonarm: What you posted means: that over the years all what you posted on Agon has no " value " ? are not " transferable to others at all?.
IMHO you are trying to diminish all the contributions that all the Agoner's already made it in Agon: of course save but you!
So and following your statements maybe is time to close Agon and other net forums. Thank's to this forum and his people in-here you are earning money and could be risky if Agon close: don't you think?
My experiences and other Agoner's experiences are that many of what we discuss in these forums are " transferable " and due to this true " transferable " meaning many of us already improved the quality performance level in our systems.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: I love you: you made that today I really laughed ( in good shape ) with that " Mexican blood " post.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: What kind of " drink " other than beer have you to offer? I mean from that German region and : how about regional food?
You know, I need to evaluate first that I be there hearing your MS, according our deal.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: No we don't have that german restaurant. Here in México we are more oriented to French-Italian-regional food than german one.
Of course I like beer and german beer but I ask for regional food-drink on your " region ".
I'm from a Mexico region-city name it: Oaxaca, this region is extremely " wealthy/rich " food one of tipical/regional food that's much appreciated by people other that the ones lives there and knowed very well. That region too is very well knowed because a tipic/regional drink name it: mezcal, that comes too from the " maguey " like the famous tequila but with different " touch ", as a fact the mezcal taste very different from the tequila.
Oaxaca is famous all over the country by its regional " cousine " ( more than 300 different regional cousine choices. ), mezcal and several tourist atractions like: arqueological places and lovely beachs.
Now that you are talking about wines I would like that when I was there we can " taste " a couple of bottles ( well we don't have to be limited to only 2 bottles. ) of Chateu Petrus, certainly not a german wine but certainly " the best " out there. Of course I know that Dertonarm think that there is not " the best ".
Nandric and all of you that could like to taste a very special red wine with french " high cousine " plate and that in the past already tasted Chateu Margaux or Chateu Laffite: you need to taste the Chateu Petrus, even if this will be the last " thing " you will do in your life. If you like a great Food/plate then you can't " go " with out tasted the Petrus.
Thuchan, let me talk with Guillermo on this " tonearm taste " and comeback to you. Take in count that both will be there and with " vote " about your MSs.
Halcro, what Eckart has to win?, well IMHO Guillermo and I preccense at his place could be enough!!
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Sorry: when I be there.
R. |
Dear Nandric: Well, maybe I'm not to " diplomat " as you said it. We have german restaurants but not the one named, in the other side I'm ignorant if exist red wines at the level of those Chateus or a Chateu Laroque but if there are then it will be a pleasure to have a taste meeting aditional the audio reunion.
I really like " food ", eating is one of the few pleasures we have on earth that we can enjoy and I appreciate it enormeous. I'm universal on food-taste but I love the French gourmet one along his wines and especialy the top ones red or white ( including Grand Cru Champagnes. ).
Btw, and now that you " give up ", here in México people said:
" even that you did not eaten you feel a " discomfort in the stomach " "
I know that Thuchan will comes with a " nice " answer.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear In_shore: Great!! jaja ja.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: M'exico is a a wide and always open door to all over the world visitors.
IMHO the word GIRLS is full of " universality ", don't you think? but yes Mexican a re lovely ones, as you know the 2011 Miss Universe title was won by one of our Mexican girls.
Regards and enjoy the music, raul. |
Dear Thuchan: All of you are welcome. No drugs only good Mezcal and maybe a " touch " of Miss Universe.
Btw, In_shore and Thuchan: seems to me that both of you already been in México. When and where " meet my country?
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: Good. México ( as many other countries. ) is a land full of history and culture traditions at each single district/region ( as you name it. We name it: State. ). In some way is like a kaleidoscope where any one ( including the Mexican. ) discover magnificent " things/experiences ".
Well, next time you will be here I can show you " new old stock " México " items ".
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear In_shore: Welcome any time again, I'm your " tourist guide " and of course with time for audio fun.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thuchan: What I mean it was places in México that you don't know yet. Of course if the tonearm is ready you will see it.
Yes, the production will be in México, things are that Guillermo is owner of one of the more important " broker " CNC/Lasser and industrial machinary in our country so we take advantage on this welcomed fact. We are thinking in a first 50 units production.
I was at Munich, Hamburg and Berlin airports ( in Hamburg for one night. ) but my wife and daugther were in Germany a few years ago when they made a tourist trip by 8 weeks in Europe.
Absolutely, it will be a pleasure to know and learn about your lovely country.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Dear Thucan. I'm refering to México " new " places to you.
Regards and enjoy the music, Raul. |
Btw, have you been in Huatulco's Harbors?
Raul. |