Micro Max 282 vs. Exclusive EA-10


I have mounted an Exclusive EA-10 on my Micro (I added a pic to my system), one of the most expensive Japanese tonearms, maybe a little underrated. The tonearm and the tubes are re-wired by Ikeda silver wire. The EA-10 reminds me very much of the Max 282, most properly it was built by Micro Seiki. Does anybody know if this is true?
thuchan

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In-shore, This saying is invented by the Dutch but I am
still thinking about the Mexican one reg. the 'discomfort in the stomach'. I still have no clue.

Regards,
Dear Daniel, As you know I am a careful but also skeptical
reader. They fit together I will hope. My question: in the front of the headshell we have ,say, 8m coppper wire on the 'bobin' or the plate for the coils in the cart. At the back of the rewired 'wand' or tonearm tube we have,say, 1m
phono-cable. I want mention all the soldering points. How can +/-40 cm. of Ikeda silver wire in between be of such invluence for the sound?

Regards,
'The best wire'. 'The best' is a way of speaking but imply or assume implicit the quantifier 'all'. Think of 'set-theoretic' paradoxes. Well the correct reading would be possible if the outhor adds 'from those inspected' or use
a numerical quantifier like Raul ( 20 ). We may assume that
Dertonarm inspected 'some wire' and concluded that Ikeda
is the best of them. Both of our dramitis personae can impossible claim to have inspected 'all wire' in the world.
So , it may look strange , but there is no contradiction here. Ie if the premises are not clear the deduction can
impossible be more clear. We already have had discussion
about 'the best cart' and 'the best tonearm'. In this way
of speaking everybody is entiteld to his own 'best'.

Regards,
Dear Daniel, In our communication in the so called 'ordinary languge' many things are (pre) supposed
to be known. Some kind of economy of the language use.So
I already presupposed the 'fact' of the subjective approach in our hobby . One get usualy the advise to 'listen with his own ears'. A strange looking sentence
but the intendend meaning is to trust more your own hearing then those of others. So Raul as well as you should add 'according to me'. I know about the desire to put more in our statements than this 'damned' subjectivity
because of the inclination to 'objecify' our own opinion.
But all of us who know anything about scientific proof also
know that there is not a single scientific condition that is satisfied. Raul is obviously searching in a scientific way but there are no measurements to support his claims. Besides one can not have it both ways: subjective as well as objective. That is way there was no contradiction between you both. According to me that is. Such fights as between you both are, if I am well informed, also usual between even the particle physicist. I don't enjoy them but I am not suprised at all. Anyway you both are our high regarded members.

Regards,
Dear Lew, I am sorry but despite your statement that you
have no 'set opininon' some sets are always involved by
any comparations. There are even sets with just one member.
Ie there is no way out of sets. My post started with an specific question. What kind of influnce a peace of 40cm
wire between the coils (x m. of cupper wire) and phono cable (+/- 1m) can have? Your argument is about two materials reg. conductivity that according to you can be measured? But, headshell wire ignored, my 'case' is about
3 different kind of wire in series. Not to mention all the
solderings parts. Any idea how this serie can be measured with some conclusive outcome?

Regards,
Dear Daniel, I myself was not thinking in the context of
Rousseau's volonte generale but in the context of 'authority' versus 'truth'. You know that till Galileo
those were considered to be identical. So Aristoteles ruled
for more then 2000 years over Europe because of his authority. But this 'turn' is scientific one. Our ordinary
members need some quidance and advise and thy are those who attribute 'authority' to some other members. So despite the fact that,say, Raul never claimed any authority reg. carts ( he invited J. Carr to explain the issue) he is regarded to be one. The same is true about you in other domein and Halcro in some other domein,etc.
To me this is a sensible thing to do and think. What are
the alternatives? The reason is simmple: R,D or H know more about x then I so...
You may call this 'believing' or even 'religion' but that is how it works and I don't believe that this is wrong.
We the ordinary members are not stupid. We read , compare and think and then decide whom to trust. As you know of course Kant has also something to say about the 'practical reason'.

Regards,
Dear Raul, The pope answered some questions by some intrusive lady by stating: 'but my lady I am already Catholic.' We already know what you think about 'some'
German. I don't believe that your repetion is similar to
the Roman one: 'repetion is the mother of study'.
Besides I thought that your time must be a scarce 'good'.

Regards,
Dear Thuchan, 'some German' is some kind of descriptive function entailing one variable. But I meant by 'some' D and not T . Besides my remark about Rauls repetion reg. D is the opposite of your generalization. I see no force in
this kind of repetion. So I thought that Raul can use his
spare time in a better way.
The remarks about 'love baby' are above my comprehension.
Even T_bone seem to have some 'comprehension' trouble with your text. Some German humour intended?

Regards,
Dear Halcro, I mentioned Picasso in the context of your
arm pod implying that it looks as an object of art.
But some of us, uh, the foreigners, are already 'wrestling'
with the English grammar and phrasing so even the so called
'plain' or 'ordinary English' is difficult enough for us.
But your methaphoric 'picture' may be a 'bridge to far' for
the mentioned 'us'. So I assume that you are addressing primary the native English speakers (grin)?
We all profit from the rich experience and knowledge of both Dertonarm and Raul. But we don't like when thy fight.
There is olso this 'natural' inclination to choose sides which make the situation even worst. There is also not much
to learn from 'ád hominem' arguments as Lew put it.
But there is also differece between the two reg. temper.
The German never use(d)s offending expressions but prefer
sarcastic way of expressing himself.
I alas never meet Dertonarm in person but I am somehow convinced that he does not look like a windmill nor as a
red rag. However for a 'Spaniard' this may be different.

Regards,
Dear Daniel, Nice for you but I am more interested in the looks of your Swedish beauty.
BTW I am a twin brother of Shon Conery.
Cheers,
My goodness, the German and the Mexican share the same
kind of 'humour'. To be honest I prefer when thy fight.

Regards,
Dear Halcro, I hope that I am a diligent student of the
Aussie kind of humour. I even cosider emigration to Australia. I live next to the Germans, you know. In Bavaria
btw even water-skiing is not allowed. So our Lew also lost any interest for this country.

Regards,
Our Mexican connoisseur used to think in terms of Maxime
get cautious. Traveling all the way to Bavaria for some
beer and sauerkraut? But if he wants the best BMW there is
Thuchan can certainly help. He started his career there.
However from 'we in Bavaria produce the best car in the world '
one can hardly deduce 'everything in Bavariais the best'.
Regards,
Dear Daniel, How could I forget Otto von Bismarck? But I thought that he united you all some time ago. Because of you my sympathy is with the Northrhine-Westfalia of course
but when Bavarians praise themself with BMW cars they should mention the (more) important contributions from your
(ex) princedom. However even more important is the good
chance that you and Raul will at last reach consensus about something. Ie the menu and wine list. If I rememer well you are also familiar with Maxime.
Cheers,
Dear Raul, You are obviously not suitable for corps diplomatique: 'we don't have German restaurant' in Mexico.
This dear Raul is not even an implicit offense of the
German art of cooking. But you know they also believe that
they produce some really good wines. Besides they only pretend to respect the Frenchman. However I am sure that
thy are aware of the prices of: Chateu Margaux, Laffite and they can of course quess that Chateu Petrus is
not cheaper. Ever heard about an German as 'big spender'?
I am curious how Thuchan will wriggle himself out of the
situation which he himself caused. What a pity for Dertonarm and you.
I am sure that you would agree about Chateu Petrus.

Regards,

Dear Daniel, I somehow expected such a 'lesson' but I am used to learn from you. However my hope that you and Raul
will reach some consensus about enything is totaly crushed.
And this 'wine fight' is not even about (windmills) of the tonearm geometry, not to mention FR 64/66 'red rag'.
I give up but still hope that perhaps Halcro can do better.

Regards,
Dear Daniel, 'is there a need for consensus?' In my case
only regarding all of my components. Otherwise I begin to
doubt with the consequence that only much more expensive
subsitute seem to come in consideration. But I am allowed,
I hope, to exploit the lack of any consensus between two
important members in our forum. I was in particular proud
of my 'windmills' and 'a red rag' but alas...

Regards,
Dear Raul, Regarding the girls. You will need to compete
with 'a mixure of George Glooney and Pierce Bronsan' +
the twin brother of Shon Connery who is actualy 30 years
younger. As a kind of compensation I can only think about,say, 12 bottles of Chateau Petrus. BTW this is my second warning against those Germans.

Regards,
A stroke of a genius, alias Thuchan Connery the late (a very complicated delivery). His way out : he invited himself to Mexico while I thought all the time that we are
talking about his invitation of Raul to Bavaria. Or am I missing something? Daniel what is the price of Chateau Petrus in Germany?
'Raul,WE are coming!' I can hardly believe that he means
Dertonarm or ,even worst, Syntax?
BTW my being 1/2 of an German in philosophical sense is easy to explain. I immensly admire Frege but also immensly hate Hegel. So I have nothing whatsoever to do with this Hegelian 'part'of Germany.

Regards,
Dear Daniel, This is your first (serious) lapsus that I know of. It is not gentlemanlike to disappoint 3/4 of the girls world-wide. I share your inclination but I can assure you that pretendig is not some kind of art.

Regards,
Dear Thuchan, As a world citizen you are in some sense
'everywhere' but I had no idea that this also apply to all of our threads. So I missed Rauls invitation in the other thread in which one can get lost btw. My excuse for describing you as someone who invites himself to 'the party'. But I assume that you are welcome everywhere ,not to mention your looks as the younger twin brother, so the question about 'invitation' become a trivial formality.
But instead of some strong German protest I got even an
compliment as belongig to 'exceptional members'. What an
magnanimous person you are. However I am not sure about the
real meaning of 'your beloved Germany'. Well dear Thuchan
I may be 'exceptional' but in some other sense. You see I
have three 'mother countrys': Serbia is my birth mother,
Germany is my intellectual mother and Holland is my existential mother. In all of them I feel at home and I have no specific preference.

Regards,