MHDT Orchid TUBE ROLLING


Interested in hearing about tube rolling experiences with the Orchid and other MHDT dacs, namely, the specific comparative sonic characteristics of the various 396a, 5670 and other compatible tubes used in the output buffer. My only experience is with the WE396a that Linear Tube Audio installed in my new Orchid.
pmboyd
Update.  The military jw2c51 arrived and it is identical to my civilian version in every way.  Both military and civilian versions say jw2c51 at the top of the tube.  Only the civilian version says we396a at the bottom.  Same ink, style and logo.  Same black plate, “D” getter and construction.
with 6dj8 and 6sn7 adapters for the mhdt units, one has a very very broad range of tube choices to roll, and both tube types have long illustrious histories and were made in various parts of the world to boot

you will get somewhat lower gain from some variants(esp. older 6sn7s), but since the tube is used as an output buffer only, that will not impact the dac's output voltage too much

for all tube rollers of orchids, stockholms, istanbuls and the like, just be careful -- be very gentle and use a steady and firm hand when removing the tube from the adapter, find the right orientation where gentle rocking pressure will loosen and release the tube pins, and especially when releasing the adapter from the socket on the dac's pcb board... the board is somewhat flexy and there are examples of folks breaking connections between the tube socket and the board below - jian at mhdt has been cool about sending replacement boards in the past, but one cannot count on his goodwill being extended indefinitely
My Orchid should arrive in the next week or so... I've purchased the Bendix 2C51, which has arrived. I see 2C51 printed on the side. Is there any reason to believe this will perform differently than those marked with 6385, and can anyone comment on the qualities of the Bendix 2C51 in the Orchid? Any reason I shouldn't rest here for a while?
Just wanted to say thanks for the helpful info. I left the stock tube powered on for a few days, but I never really warmed up to it. I’m not sure exactly what was missing, maybe just a bit thin. But a handy (and well made) adapter with an NOS Amperex 6DJ8 fixed whatever it was. Together it still cost less than the tube upgrade LTA was offering. (And it looks like they raised their base prices right after I ordered.)

My other DAC is a Chord Qutest and I expected with 2 very different approaches, I would have a clear favorite. So far that just isn’t the case. I might need to devote several hundred hours of careful listening to fully investigate. Sure would be handy if someone else could just figure out my preferences for me so I can just listen to music instead. 

Sure would be handy if someone else could just figure out my preferences for me so I can just listen to music instead.
This is so true.  I love the hunt but at the same time get so frustrated.  I guess that's why dealers are great for most people.  Give them a budget, tell them what you like and they put a few systems together that they already know work. You then choose. No faffing about with tube adapters (I didn't even know they were a thing before I got my Balanced Pagoda) and 50 tube choices. BTW, I like the Amperex you have the best of the 3 I've tried.  I also have GE 5670W's and Tesla E88CC's.