Meitner i upgrades


New i upgrades are available for Meitner DACs. It’s an extensive upgrade requiring a trip back to the factory in Calgary, Ontario and dealers are facilitating the process. I should be getting a return authorization number soon to send in my MA3. Cost for the MA3 upgrade is $3500. I believe it will be a noticeable improvement for a not outrageous cost (by hi-end audio standards). Details are on the Meitner website.

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I compared the latest versions of MConnect and JPLAY. No comparison. JPLAY is better. 

Not very difficult to beat MConnect. 🤣. I only use it to apply firmware updates to the Meitner MA3i. 

Meitner MA3 upgrade to MA3i

Dear Community,

I have been studying your posts with great interest and am positively impressed by your MA3i upgrade results,

because I am also interested in an MA3i upgrade of my MA3 (Roon Nucl.+ (B) connected via USB).

 

1st question,

have any of you read the Stereophile (US) MA3 Review 03Jun2022, by Jason Victor Serinus?

https://www.stereophile.com/content/meitner-ma3-integrated-da-processor

 

Since the Stereophile writes very critically, they rated the MA3 as follows

(in Page 2, after Joyce DiDonato's album Eden, review excerpt):

"

Three things were certain:

  1. The MA3's soundstage was impressively wide,
  2. its bass was quite strong (although it lacked the ultimate wallop and control of my more costly reference DACs), and
  3. its colors were true. If anything, the Rossini DAC/Clock combo sounded a mite warmer.

"

2nd question,

did this MA3i upgrade live up to the Sterophile review of the MA3?

Were the criticisms above taken into account?

 

3rd Question,

does anyone have experience using the Meitner MA-3 (i) and Roon

(Roon Nucleus+ (B) server with QNAP NAS in a network)?

 

I would be pleased to read your comments.

 

Many thanks and best regards

Michael

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I had MA3 for about 2 weeks in my system and listened to it extensively using Aurender N200 streamer via USB. As well as using it as a Roon end point connected with Ethernet cable. 

I find the Stereophile review of the MA3 to be accurate.

Improvements that I hear with the MA3i are

1. quieter background - this results in better detail retrieval and layering. The DAC is also more revealing and won’s sugarcoat a bad quality recording

2. Highs are sweeter and more natural but still nicely extended. cymbals shimmer with more texture and sound more real

3. clarity in the mids slightly improved due to lowered noise floor

4. bass and dynamics improved

I find the bass on the MA3i to be very accurate and fast. It isn’t huge, thunderous or boomy. It’s articulate.

Soundstage - the original MA3 excelled here. I don’t hear any difference in soundstage width, depth or height with the MA3i but I definitely hear better layering and separation of instruments. Here it’s not night and day difference but it’s an important improvement.
The sound is still very engaging and very musical.

I found the MA3i to sound more to my liking using it as a Roon endpoint. My Roon core is Mac Mini that’s located in a different room. I use EERO mesh network and have an EERO node in my listening roon. The Meitner is fed from EERO using Audience Hidden Treasure Ethernet cable. 
 

I sold the Aurender N200 streamer and the Audience StudioOne USB cable I used with it. Yes the Aurender sounded different but it didn’t sound better. I actually prefer the more lively and exciting presentation using the MA3i as a Roon endpoint.

One other thing to consider in the upgrade that the gain on the MA3i is higher. The output voltage is increased. You can obviously tune it down with volume control but I haven’t found it to be necessary. 

My take on it is, if you like the sound of the original MA3 in your system and want more of it and with improved quality then upgrading to MA3i is the right step. If you don’t like the MA3, then look elsewhere. 
 

Audphile1 nailed it. The new version has the same general character, but is more dynamic, quieter, and has better tone and timber. If you like the old one, you will love the new one. If the old version wasn’t your cup of tea, maybe you would like something else better. Lots of great stuff out there.