@ pops, Sorry, I never said I did not like Mcintosh!, I like them more than alot of audio out there!, I prefer the Krell flavor over mcintosh, does not mean nothing than an opinion, someone else may like mcintosh better than Krell!, perhaps you do, nothing wrong with that,I see I was wrong to put it the way I did, I am sorry to all!, opps!, forgive me pops, your a dear friend, nobody is perfect, I know I am not, I say things at times that may be straight-up and direct, Thats the Florida coming out of me!, nothing held back!, I do not mean harm by this, I express my opinion without thinking eanything of it, my bad.,, cheers.