You have described my situation very accurately. Two problems, my friends are all cheap bastards and no one I know has ANY decent equipment whatsoever. The second is that , having 4 children, am trying to get as much stuff "on the cheap" as possible. The only things I would not consider buying used are a turntable and cartridge. So I don't want to go to a dealer, "use" him, then go and purchase a used product. I know what you mean-of course it is best to hear everything with your own ears and make your own decision. Unfortunately, my situation will not allow me the luxury of a full demo. I have received much misinformation from here and other sources, but for the most part, the information has been accurate and useful. So, you are correct in your assessment, but I am still willing to take a chance in order to reap some significant savings. Thank you for your advice.