mbl 101e vs 116f vs 111f


could someone describe the difference in these speakers? is the 101e worth the extra money? i see a 116f for 16k and 101e for 40k on audiogon right now

how well would mcintosh components work with these speakers compared to mbl? or does anyone have other suggestions for a cd/dvd transport, preamp, and amp? it'll be for a 2.0 living room setup for music/movies

thanks
mrkoven

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"The MBL 101e, the Bryston 28B-SST2 and the ARC 40th annv preamp."

Yes, that would be I very drool worthy combo I suspect!

Don't forget the big room with 10' or more of space behind the mbl's required in order toreally appreciate what they can do in terms of big, deep, holographic soundstage!

That goes for 101s and 111s.

101s take bass and dynamics to a higher level as I understand it (assuming sufficient amplification to achieve) using the proprietary mbl bass drivers in that model, though the 111s for example are no slouches eitehr in this department.

Without a big room like that, you might get by just as well with the smaller, cheaper models.

Not sure I would even want larger mbls without the ability to have lots of space behind them to do their thing. They come back to the pack more when put in a more standard or typical room in a more standard or typical nearer to rear wall configuration.

The larger SS Mac amps might do OK with mbl (better than all but perhaps the most elite systems out there), but I would not assume they would max out the bigger mbls until I hard them in comparison to teh comparable mbl amplification.

The big BRyston would do quite well I suspect!

Yes, unless time and money is just not a concern ever, I'd recommend you make sure you know exactly what you are getting into and are going to do before dropping big bucks on larger MBL speakers, including used ones.
The Crown and mbl pairing is an interesting one from a cost effectiveness perspective.

I have no idea how this combo would sound, but I believe that judgments on amps made with more traditional speaker designs often do not carry over to the more unique designs out there, like is the case with mbl and other leading omni designs in general.

In other words, all bets are off for me regarding how well an amp will sound with a design like mbl until I hear it.

The two things I would look for on paper with an amp for larger mbls are amps with hefty power supplies that are capable of delivering a lot of current and doubling down their power ratings into 4 and 2 ohms. Not sure Crown falls into this category, but I suspect teh results could still be quite good. However, if you own mbl 101s, it would be a shame to not invest as needed to drive them to the max in taht you have a machine capable of truly extraordinary things if you just feed it the right fuel.