Mat for Rega P10


I decided to start this discussion to hear different experiences from Rega RP10 and P10 users. I know Rega does not suggest replacing their own, supplied with turntable, mat as doing so can degrade the sound but I have to say that I am loyal opposition to that concept, looking for replacement ASAP.

I know Framer recommended the Stein Music The Perfect Interface Carbon mat but $625 for mat is quite steep I think. Even the cheapest one is $250 and I do not consider It a bargain. 

Does anybody here use either of those two mats and can share some insight as to why they are so expensive and if they really make that much of a difference?

arturgorniak

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@sokogearThanks, I got the Teac mat and am using it - I like how it stays put on the platter. I like the way it looks as well.

Thanks.  
I have ordered Teac TA-TS30UN (made in Japan) "Washi" mat that shares similar concept with  Stein Music The Perfect Interface for the fraction of price.
Several RP10 users recommended it to me so, considering its low price ($29), I decided to try it.
 
http://audio.teac.com/product/ta-ts30un/

@chakster @mofimadness 
the mats you guys are mentioning here are 4mm thick which will present a problem with Rega Arm that does not allow VTA setting.....I have to stick to 1-1.5mm mats. We will see how the TEAC will work...

@guy-incognito I will keep you posted.... friend of mine just ordered one for his Acoustic Signature WOW XXL with TA1000 arm and Soundsmith cart so it will be interesting to see how the same mat compares on two different platters. 
@chakster 
Correct -  Rega is definitively not a table for somebody who likes tweaking and experimenting a lot ,however I totally buy into Roy Gandy's philosophy of rigidness and simplicity. 
Same said for Alan Shaw and his Harbeths that I proudly own :)
@mofimadness 
Since you own the Teac mat - how stiff and robust it is? Does it stay nicely formed on the platter and not come off with record? 
What rega models have you tried the FF mat on?
@slaw 
Honestly, I am not going to compare to the original junk supplied by Rega. Functionally upgrade...
@smatsui 
My understanding is that Way Excellent 2 mat is not a really recommended product for ceramic platters...thats where Grungebuster Turntable Mat comes into place.....BUT I would be rather skeptical to spend $145 for a mat....
I have been using Teac mat for a while (66 records played to be exact) and I find it a great product that does not introduce static, stays on the platter, and looks sweet....
OK - I just came back from my friend who owns spectacular system where we had a chance to compare the $650 Stein Music The Perfect Interface Pi Carbon Signature to my $30 Teac Washi. 
He has amazing system in the large - dedicated room - The beauty of his set up is that the TT is set behind the listening chair so whoever operates it, is out of sight the person who listen.
Great set-up for experimentation! 
He uses SME 30/12 with 12" SME V arm and Soundsmith Hyperion cartridge. Dartzeel pre-amp with built in custom tune phono stage and Zeel's mono blocks feeding Wilson Alexx speakers.
So I brought over my el-chipo Teac asking him to switch mats without telling me.
My job was to identify any differences with a hope of getting consistent results and point to the specific mat.
It was refreshing to realize that neither me nor the owner of this high end system could hear ANY difference!!!
Once again, we have proven that most justification for more expensive product happens in our brain and rarely is based on the actual superiority in quality improvements...
he was quite disappointed with the outcome....BUT he is a well prosperous lawyer so he will live....$650 - cheap change...
Me, on the other hand, super happy that I scored bargain.....mat GAME OVER!