Marantz SA-10 arriving Monday!


I've been hearing and reading all I can about this player during this last year. I have a 6005 right now and it's a nice player but not as good as my analog rig (10k) so it's not a fair comparison. Elizabeth mentioned that her SA-10 is better than her analog. I will be comparing the 2 SACD players side by side. I have at least 3 CD's in which I have duplicates. I'm fascinated about how the circuitry upsamples to DSD SACD. Well not exactly but somehow an improvement over Redbook CD. I have a 2" thick maple block coming in the same day for it. It's going to be a long weekend. I know it can't work miracles on all CD's. If there is jitter in the recording then supposedly you will never get that out. Speak up if I'm wrong about that.
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Probably 4-800hours. Some of which was running off hours. It sounded better than ever yesterday but for some reason my stereo sounds best in the fall anyway. Go figure that!
blueranger

Good to read that you are enjoying the break-in period.  How many hours are logged now- 

Happy Listening!
@thelefthand yes, Z1ES USB Audio output from Z1ES was improved with the latest firmware, but the bass is a bit loose compared to tighter bass and better slam when playing SA-10 from discs or USB drive.

I also have Intel NUC7i5 with China-made (Zerozone) 19V 100W linear power supply; with optimized Windows 10 and HYSOLID and also Linux-based Euphony Audio (trial version) and USB Audio into SA-10, it sounds pretty close to SA-10 playing discs and USB drive.
@anwar sir ,did you update the firmware of z1es 18444 then connect with sa10 again?
Any improvement sound of the music?Because you mentioned that "it sounds inferior compared to playing CD/SACD directly on SA-10"
I'm still enjoying it. When I play a CD on it that it hasn't played before I always hear something new,
@elizabeth ,If it had XLR outs, I would have got one immediately after selling the Oppo UDP-205 that I currently have.
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blueranger

Hope you are recovering well and enjoying the music on your SA-10. Tell me about the latest hours on your player.  Happy Listening!
blueranger

Thank You for the update. After 200 hours the player will really open up and sing.  It only gets better from here. Hope you are well and make a full recovery soon. Looking forward to your next incremental update.

Happy Listening!
Yes! I've been out over 3 months for surgery. The unit has been playing non-stop 70 percent of the time and idle some. I'm in a unique situation where I could hear it break in from day to day. I've listened to a ton of music. More than I've ever had in any 3 month period.
blueranger
Thanks! for sharing. Have you reached the 200-hour mark?
Happy Listening!
I heard a very expensive system at an audio store Saturday that I'm not naming. One brand system CD player preamp and amp. Around $30k plus and a pair of $20k plus speakers. I was hoping to hear something spectacular but it was a letdown. Anyway the overall presentation was lean and not full bodied. I would have liked to have the SA-10 to compare. To be fair the room was larger than mine with a higher ceiling. I'm content with my system and upgrading isn't in the near future. 
 The SA-10 is a keeper and until streaming matures it will be spinning discs
2nd Note;

feel free to list your system gear, like Elizabeth, so that those of us who search for a demo can have a running list of brands that are sonic matches with this very special player.  Due to its price, there will be a limited audience and or interest from the majority of the audiophile community. Additionally, there is a small niche' of us who own massive CD, SACD collections that continue to grow every year. This is not a bad thing at all.

Happy Listening!
blueranger  et al.,

I look forward in reading all of the wonderful details and experiences from you guys, gals,  that own this spinner until I can score an audition.
Staying tuned...


Happy Listening!
blueranger

Thanks! for sharing. I am looking forward in reading more as you accrue several more hundred hours on this player.

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Well over a hundred hours. Got it July 30th. It's been running 80 percent of the time. I've been out recovering from surgery since June 29th. Listening maybe 4-6 hours a day. It's sound is captivating. It will draw you in. I found myself listening to the same CD twice in a row many times. The sound just makes listening pleasurable. I tried some badly made discs and even though it didn't transform them it took a large part of the stridency out. An example of some great discs are Victory at Sea by Telarc is awesome. The Theme from Shaft (80s version) is also superb. 
blueranger

have you reached the 1st 100-hour mark of listening time

Happy Listening!
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I usually purchase the sacd's if the price gap isn't too great.  They do sound better, not vastly better, but noticeable.
not sure if the same can be said for the other regular living stereo cd releases, but i have a living stereo cd release for dvorak new world symphony and it sounds amazing to my ears. is sacd really all that much better?
For newer classical listeners the "Living Stereo" sacd of the Brahms and Tchaikovsky violin concertos with Heifetz and the Chicago Symphony is hard to beat.  An old recording with the classic three neumann microphone technique.  It sounds wonderful and Heifetz is my favorite violinist.  
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milpai
another +vote for Schubert. Add some Liszt, for good measure.
Happy Listening!
anwar

another +vote for those Telarc CD and SACD titles directly recorded in DSD.  Happy Listening!
Freddy Cole, Merry-Go-Round SACD by Telarc (SACD-63493) really sounds good with my SA-10.  It was directly recorded in DSD format.
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I hear ya! elizabeth

I fell in love with Jazz about 15 years ago.  Never looked back.
I still enjoy Pop, Rock and came from the Hard Rock, Metal camp as well.
Quite a few parallels between Jazz and Metal, if you listen close enough.
@elizabeth ,
Please suggest a couple of Classical chamber music, quartets, sonatas, that are the Jazz equivalent of Time Out. Something that people who like Rock/Jazz/Vocals can instantly get hooked on to.
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Thank you Elizabeth. I'm a rocker and never really took the time and patience to enjoy classical. 
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I'm trying to get more into classical music with the SA-10 in the house. I scored yesterday at a thrift store going out of business. 25 cent CDs!!!! I bought 20 classical titles. Strauss, Horowitz, with  Telarc and Grammaphone for the labels. I love the sounds of the orchestra for a change. I don't see how a record could sound any better with some of these. The better the recording. The better your system will sound. Didn't mean to de rail the thread here.
elizabeth, it is a well know issue for SA-10 when playing from USB thumb drive.  please see the 2nd paragraph from the link below:

http://help.nativedsd.com/handling-and-playing-dsd-files/file-management/creating-a-gapless-playback...

I just hope Marantz will fix this.
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@elizabeth do you have isolation transformer or other power conditioning device in your system?  I use Torus AVR30 wall mount (I live in 240V country).  It was only after I have the SA-10 I know the true capability of my system.

My SA-10 is in its second week.  I don't think the break in has completed but it's sounding better and better.  In my experience, playing discs directly using SA-10 transport gives the best results followed by a high-performance USB thumb drive.  My hard disk player (Sony HAP-Z1ES) is not up to the standard of SA-10.  While the Sony supports gapless playback in all formats, the sound is inferior when using SA-10 USB Audio input.  I think to get the best from USB Type B input, need a much better player/streamer costing close to SA-10.

I wish SA-10 supports gapless playback when playing from USB drive.  Right now it mutes with relay clicks at the beginning of each track which is annoying.  I hope Marantz will fix this through firmware upgrade.
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elizabeth
Thank You for your continued thoughts/impressions on the SA-10 as well.I am still trying to find an audition in my immediate area, the Southeast U.S.

Happy Listening!


bluerangerMuch Thanks! for providing your thoughts/impressions on the SA-10.The hope lies in Marantz learning from Sony/Philips on "not" what to do on their Reference spinners. Keep all marketing tactics in place for entry, mid and highest end players.
Additionally, reach out and touch this company w/ an email or phone call expressing your pleasure with their Digital products. Inquire about their intentions to stock essential/critical parts as well.

Happy Listening!
I have the SA14 and I love it. It rivals or betters my vinyl rig (Amadeus with Dynavector 20, Luxman E1 phono) depending upon the recording but especially with SACDs
The rest of my rig is DeHavilland Ultraverve, Bryston 4BSST, Vandy 3A Sigs.

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I think the headphone jack on the SA-10 us dandy. Detailed and what Rain man might say, "sparkly". I still like the filter one setting and factory default on the other settings. 
 I just out the new Zaolla silverline balanced interconnects on the 14b3. Music has a little more zip and excitement but leans a little to the edgy side. I know silver can be brutally revealing bring out a components weakness. Music has a little more impact and that is expected since silver is a faster conducter. The KGACs were fast and some songs that start out woukd actually jolt me a little. I finally gave up on them because they were to revealing to the older equipment I had. I wish I had kept them but hey trade in for new toys is the game. I did burn them in for a week in my cable cooker and that helped. I hope the Zaollas break in and mello some.
 I stay on the filter 1 setting. I still use the factory default settings on the other sound shaping options. This player is the bomb. It decodes  a fantastic digital signal into a lush landscape of sonic pleasures. With that said, however I'm not retiring my TT.
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Good point well taken. I dry brush every record before I drop the needle. All records vacuum cleaner, stored in plastic sleeves with album jackets. I clean all CDs too but not before playing. My Marantz has been skipping about every 30 hozrs of playing. The CD only  loses a sec or two. The 8005 I had for 15 months never skipped. Will this get worse????? Like my Shanling not being able to read discs less and less. I remember In 05 it started having trouble reading SACDs I might have to give it 3-6 reloads but it would go. It would never play Tommy. When I had to have it serviced up North around 05. The Yankee said if it doesn't play or has trouble playing a disc now and then don't worry. It was only SACDs at that time. If I had made him fix it while they still had replacement parts it would be working today!!!! Thanks for your professional opinion whoever you were. I hope you read thus post. Hey doctor it hurts when I move my arm a special kind of way. WELL DONT MOVE IT THAT KIND OF SPECIAL WAY!!! NEXT.