Magnepan, Ohm, Spatial or ??

mapman, thanks for the 'house tour'..*S*  I've been wondering what/where/how you've been set up, knowing you're an Ohm fan....

soundchasr, my spouse likes our SMGa Maggies too....half-way into the room is a non-starter, but for the sake of martial bliss I've a devious plan.  Some will cringe, but....'X' for Y...;)

The rest of my thoughts on Walsh speakers is known to most, so I'll just hold my tongue on that. *S*  One can do as well, but will spend more to do so...imho....

Happy listening, soundchasr...👍...whichever way you go....

mapman, DC in the typical room usually has zero SAF...*L*  Unless the spouse is an audiofilly or one is single...;)  But since Maggies' are dipoles, I'll bet they sounded great....

soundchasr, honestly, Ohms are a terrific commercial omni speaker line.  Something for every room size, nearly every budget, and their trial policy allows one to 'test for fit and taste'.  I have recommended them in the past.  Being a dipole & omni type, I have my own favs as most do.

Give 'em a go...they have their own preferences as to placement.  But with patience and a bit of 'push 'n poke around' you'll likely be pleased.  Some have commented that they pair well with a sub, but that's up to ones' urges for bass on tap....;)

Personally, I don't own a pair.  As a young jerk about town, I happened to hear a pair of the original Ohm type F speakers in the early '70's.  I've heard nothing since that has struck me as comparable.  I have some technical and design 'issues' with the current Ohms, but that's just my problems. *L*

For the past few years, I've been working on DIY'ing a Walsh speaker with some success.  I listen daily to a 'bookshelf' 2 way version, used as monitors for my 'puter.  A small sub beneath my desk provides the 'bottom' from about 150hz.  Not perfect, but they do work....and imho, rather well.

There's a free-standing pair of a similar nature, with a larger sub as well.  These undergo 'alterations' as I waste my limited spare time improving them.  A set of 4 are in the works; two to receive alum. cones, and two with titanium cones.

All 4 will receive existing Walsh tweeters.

The original Ohm patent has expired....quite a while ago...

As mapman pointed out, looking under the 'can' in an Ohm will surprise.

Imho.....disappointing.....but that's just me being 'technical' about a Walsh. *S*  'Purism' has it's price....

But that doesn't stop them from being a great speaker....and you asked *S*. 

Just wanted to 'type in' for the nanosec....busy @ the moment, but I'll ramble @ length later....

Yes, there's a lot to cover here...Cheers, Jerry *S*

soundchasr, that there is so many choices and options is either paradise or hell. *G*  That does give rise to the 'spirited discussions' in these forums  I've listened to many over my years; few of the current ones, next to none of the vaunted 'phile megabuck selections.
I quit the audio stairway to heaven some years back.  It was becoming too expensive of a habit to maintain...geoffkait comment elsewhere that it has all the elements of a drug addiction, so one does need to keep ones'  perspective in hand. ;)

Anyway....keep your conscience and wallet in mind...unless you fall in love.  Then you're doomed and on your own. *L*

mapman, Yes....there is/was a patent on the original Ohm/Walsh drivers:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3424873

I'm basing what I do on this, the 75 deg. cone slope, but reducing the size of the 'main cone'.  There is a point where the cone shifts from a radial radiation pattern to a pistonic motion to create your major bass fq.  

Those get handed off to a sub, both physically and via xover.
In this case, actively.

The same goes for the higher fq.  Where the CLS uses its' 'Tufflex Transmission Block', I opt to actively xover to another smaller Walsh directly above the main cone.

This cone is modeled after the Infinity 'ice cream cone' driver, of which I owned a pair of the tower version.  It was basically a 'super tweeter'; my biggest issue was that it was 'upside down', best enjoyed sitting on the floor....😏

Actually luck to have an extended series of conversations with one who actually engaged in building the prototypes on (you guessed it) a kitchen table....  I'm lucky to have a more 'refined' place for my efforts...

By having the cones vertically aligned, I get to dodge phase and time distortion.  And since I literally 'tri-amp' and have an active crossover (Behringer DCX2496) that can do almost anything I'd care to throw at them.

Some of us have rather unique obsessions....;)

Dale Harder opined that my cones were too heavy, which I readily agreed to.   The originals were 5 mil litho aluminum, which I got a sleeve of 100 sheets gratis from a friend 2 decades ago.  Since I've moved on to 2 mil alum and titanium.  The tweets are 1 mil alum, and a PIA to form; look at it hard, and it creases...

Dale ( http://www.hhr-exoticspeakers.com/HHRhome.htm  ) does the closest thing to the original Ohms that I (and likely anyone else) does...

The prices are what I would call reasonable for owning any of his units.
His 'normal gig' is owning a company that (I believe) makes laser equipment....HHR ES is his labor of love, and it shows. *S*

I've never had the chance to hear them.  He 'does' shows occasionally, but likely only those that happen to be nearby.

Imho, the original Ohms suffered from being 'ahead of their era' in terms of the available adhesives and material tech and application.  Dale appears to have managed to solve that.

The single driver conundrum is a hard nut to crack, even with direct radiator drivers.  With an omni, the stakes grow higher...

JS would probably be the first to agree with that.  He (and Ohm) have arrived at a reasonable and rational compromise that works, and does so at a series of price points vs. unit sizes and capabilities.

I used to own a pair of ESS AMT1c, the largest speaker pair I've owned.
Like many who note that they'd wished to still own 'X', I'm part of that crowd too. *S*  And the Kenwood LO7 mono amps that drove them.
At that time, I began applying room eq with an Audio Control eq that had a calibrated mic.

That was 3 decades ago.....time flies...

I'm just striving to have perfection with a smaller footprint, and a SAF of 9/10....literally, a stark column.

Think lipstick, writ large.

BTW...when there's 4 of them, in a 'surround' arrangement....immersion is easy, even in 2ch.  Loud is good...each main cone is eq to a 10"+  driver.  Big issue was cooking the voice coils...

"Ah, the stench of a cooked former...." (*sigh*  Back to the workbench...)

I haven't bothered with Dolby anything....yet. ;)

Enough....at this point I've certainly cemented my 'outlier status'.  And I've runneth off at the keys yet again....*L*

Cheers, Jerry
Keep the faith and Play Loud

Yes, keep the dog. *S*  They generally have better taste then their 'umans.  If they sleep through a session, that's good.
If they 'lift leg' (Sunny, our f/m, can do both...a real 'switch hitter'), then lose the speakers...*L*

Her 'aim' is remarkably accurate, BTW....;)

"...analysis paralysis...."  *L*  Considering your stated options, not a big surprise there. ;)  Speakers (especially) can be like a 'step down' from a spouse/SO....you're going to have to like with them for an extended period of time, and you'd prefer for it to be 'pleasant'...at least. *G*

Summer is the typ time for vacations, large or small.  You might consider a road trip or 2....what my SO & I like to call 'overnight speed tours'. Enjoy what the locale has to offer, as well as a demo date.  Cue up for a pair of Ohms in the meanwhile, and make them the 'last stop' that you don't have to go to...

Unfortunately, speakers aren't like socks.  But, on the other hand, if you knew Exactly what you wanted, you'd be there already. ;)

There's already too many 'tales of woe' over selections made in haste.

Have a pleasant weekend anyway....;)

soundchasr, good listening with the Vandys'.

Hope they fullfill your desires...*S*👍

Regards and best, J

off-topic:

Dog #2 is a brindle! *VBS*  Ours is a Plott/Pitt mix, smart and loves everyone.  Loves anything edible more...;)

Happy to see the Ohms are still in contention....

3 dogs!  *L*  I guess one is either 'camera shy' or doesn't want it's 'image' distributed without a 'press release'....;)

Our Sunny is useless as a portable diffuser, prefers to be 'under' furniture.....or underfoot....

Agree with maps, hold off on a sub.  Placement and rotation will be the primary project...inches and angles....

Pet positions are up to them, as usual....*L*

@bigslacker, Yup.  Selective cell padding, to restrain random rogue reflections 'n resonances...

The 4 R's...(3R)+nR, formula-ishly....'the bane of audio appreciation' or something like that...*G*

*stage whisper*

I suspect the lava lamp has some discrete influence on room acoustics....they keep showing up in audiophile installations....

What looks like a small sub under the chess table may have an 'ouija board effect' on the chess pieces, since the 'other player' is a wall panel....

That...and the sudden appearance of what seems 'an exercise device'....perhaps an 'exorcism attenuator', to control room 'funda-mentals'.... 

*'normal voicing*

I guess the lounge chair on the left 'stands in' for an acoustic panel, given the 'open area' to the adjacent room...

*looking innocent, gazing @ my shoes....*

;)