Magnepan 3.5r Owners needed.... No bass


Hello.  Brand new to the site.  I have been into Magnepans for years. 

I have 3.5r speakers which are wonderful.  

But lately it sounds like they have little to no bass.  I have them bi-wired, and when only playing the bass, it is barely there.  Strange because these used to have loads of clean, tight bass.  The mids and the highs still sound spectacular.  No buzzing, no problems.  I've examined them in bright sunlight and there is no delamination on the wires or anything.  Ive taken apart the crossover and measured and it all measures to the correct values according to the schematic.  Why would my Mg12's have loads more bass than my 3.5r's?    Powerful amplifiers.  What sound I do get is beautiful.  But just not getting the bass that this speaker should put out.  

Wondering if anyone with these speakers has experienced this issue.  3.5 or 3.6?  

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks. 

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Showing 3 responses by nevada_matt

I actually have the sublimes.  I like the fact that changing the crossover points is just swapping an inexpensive board, so experimenting isn’t going to break the bank (like tube rolling.. 40 tubes…..)

the outs go to 2 tekton 2-10 subs,  mids and highs to a carver silver seven 900 (atm) and the lows go through a carver a760x.  The amps are feeding tekton Double Impact SE speakers..with single beryllium tweeter and bi-amp wiring.

Why I say (atm) is i am waiting on a new Carver RAM285 to swap for Silver Sevens.

I am looking at magnepans.. have a room that is fairly rectangle at 26x18 with vaulted ceilings.  I do have some room treatments on the walls and the room has a nice thick rug with padding..

What magnepans would you all suggest for the Silver Seven 900s and the room?

yes, I do like my music LOUD but also without distorting; feeling the vibrations in my chest, not just listening with ears  .. well and I work outside around the house alot too.. 

 

Underwood HIFI has an Emerald Physics page that says “new models in late March 2023”

Emailed for an update.

Still, any magnepan owners out there who could chime in on minimum level model to handle 900watts/channel, without blowing up or distorting?

How far would you from the side walls?  I have absorbers at 90deg off axis from the tektons and some high directly forward and on axis directly behind.  I find this to have cut down on much of the “bouncing around” that I had.   Do the magnepans benefit from room treatments?   Just thinking about it, does the distance from the rear wall perform the “same function” ie, lowering the impact of rear signal bouncing of that hard surface to soon, too strongly and causing what ends up sounding like distortion?

 

i don’t think the sublime “colors” the music at all.  It simply separates the frequency to separate outs, with a level adjustment available, so say a recording sounds to you like the vocals were overdone on the recording, simply lower the mid output, the overall “balance” of the music is adjustable..  I like adjust the music to how I like to listen to it.. not how some sound engineer decided it should sound…

The one thing I am .. less than enthusiastic about though is the fact that you have to open it and replace the crossover cards to move the crossover frequencies.. I’d like to find one that is variable, but doesn’t inject noise..  but, for $500, this is the best I can do for now, and it isn’t bad at all.  It does exactly what I bought it to do, pull out the sub, separate the low from mid/high and feed separate amps for each frequency range.  I’ll probably pick up a couple more pairs of x-over cards, just to “experiment, but the ones I got originally work well for the vast majority of the music I listen to.

Mark at Sublime Acoustic was very helpful with initial match for the tektons on xover frequencies.

zip cord.. yep.. large gauge good quality copper with many strands, lots of surface area for the signal propagation.  Used them myself in college.