Magico - Wide vs. Narrow
Hi Everyone,
I'm not looking to buy, but I am a big fan of wide baffle speakers. I realized recently that Magico had a history of making wide baffle speakers (like the M5) which they seem to have gone away from in the current generations.
I'm curious if any fans have had a chance to hear both and if they have a preference, or impression especially in regards to being able to hear the recording space and imaging.
Thanks!
Erik
left out Wilson… The WATT Puppy…. heard a significantly modified pair of mk7 two days ago…. in a perfectly balanced room…. you are there…with no rear tweeter… Essentially a fantastic balance of a modified quadratic residue and some very high tech diffuser / absorbers… Core Audio … Novato @bdp24 Eric - i’ve heard Apogee and the big Quad in same room… stunning….. Best in music….. |
I’ve been away in wine country for a week..looking for reverberation trails in casks and later on in the right glass… I think a quick look at any of my rooms on virtual systems or of hundreds i’ve setup over 45 years of doing this will reveal zero, ZERO in the live end dead end school… in my reference room which as ive said includes if desired a rear tweeter, you will find a great affinity for diffusion. When in Seattle, stop by for a listen. @bdp24 i sold a lot of Infinity gear back in the golden age of that brand, we stocked everything but the IRS. Regrets we never had the ET which ive heard in many excellent systems. We carried ADS, Apogee, Infinity, KEF, Vandersteen, Quad, Gale, Soundlab, Acoustat, Beveridge….probably a few i’ve forgot.. oh and kits …I think we had one of the first FFT for speaker design in the usa… a retail store … fun… one learning is people love certain distortions….that is ok
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i should add that my decision references are unamplified acoustic instruments in reverberant spaces captured w simple microphones, so the temporal data is in the recording. I understand the allure of the rear firing tweeter as i have them. It’s possible Vandersteen didn’t implement them correctly. They include both a level control, on off, zobel and i can verify step correction ( there is certainly step correction on the front facing drivers. i do respect your work Duke. Best in musical happiness |
I don’t believe anyone suggested the Magico cabinet is lossy. it like many competitors is largely inert and typically exceeds the s/n of the room it resides in. A rear firing tweeter hopefully with both an on/off switch is 100% distortion and can be found on some minimal baffle designs ( the Vandersteen 7 for example ) principally to compensate for “ overdamped rooms “… which i think, if i understand the OP point about music lovers vs audiophile are mostly the domain of the latter. Enjoy the music |
@audition__audio a very astute observation…. especially the lossy cabinet and drivers with non pistonic behavior…. |
The big baffle is a two dimensional horn… complete with coloration and distortion… you can test this at home with a square of cardboard, cut a hole and speak thru it w observer or recorder… compare… To the OP the Magico you speak of used renown Scanspeak ring radiator… sort of a large two dimensional moving baffle… ha. my preference, expressed as $ and emotional investment are for minimum baffle designs.. TAD and Vandersteen… my Apogee keep me quasi… honest.. |
