Machina Dynamica

Chayro,Speak for yourself!

02-21-09: Chayro Honestly, I think the cheapest tweak is to buy a better
whatever component you're trying to tweak. Between the power cords, shelves,
cones, blocks and other bullshit, you end up spending more than a better
"whatever" in the long run. That aside, I really thought the Audience
single-outlet power conditioner (ARp1?) made a really positive improvement in
my system. About $300 and change used. I guess this is "cheap" in
the world of high-end. I plugged it directly into the outlet and attached a $50
Wiremold strip to it.
Chayro (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

I agree with Chayros 2009 opinion on tweeks.

Heres a thought,

A person decides to learn about high end audio .And they find themselves on Audiogon.They check out the home page.On the upper left hand corner they see Accessories,and they click on tweaks wondering about this.What is the first thing they see? The M.D. Pretzel,next they see the really cool looking ad with Flying Saucers ,,,,,,,Im not trying to be an ass,but I just have to shake my head when I see some of these ads.I think Geoff Is a swell person but I cannot buy into this stuff.And its not just MD,,,,Check out Coconut Audios webpage,this guy in Sweden reads about American audiophiles. Buying some of these tweaks, and really expensive cables.Then reads some of the explanations about why this stuff is so costly,and works so well.He says to himself,,WOW these guys are crazy,they will buy anything if its priced high enough, and has some BS to go along with it! So he wants to make some of this easy money from these nutty people.So he comes up with his version of,,,tweaks,,some that aliens brought to earth,,and actually sells some things!The poor person that is trying to learn has to wade thru this? If we were on a car forum and someone tryed to sell you a jar with rocks in it ,saying that if you put this jar of rocks in your trunk it will improve the performance of your car would you say"Well I cant say for sure that it does not work ,,so it might work!"WOW!

Geoff,I cant argue with your logic.I believe a lot of great things have been
realized because of the belief that,anything is possible.And we are all entitled to
our beliefs.

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Geoff made it in ,Ripoff Report,The following is from James Randi's website (http://www.randi.org/joom/content/view/127/1/). Do not fall for this scam. Read everything Randi has to say about this company!

See randi.org/joom/content/view/121/#i7 to refresh your memory of a major silly scam being used to extract cash from na've audio fans. As I've told readers before, I often get involved in trying to establish a correspondence with the scammers, and that sometimes results in protracted exchanges. With that in mind, read the following emails between reader Matt Schaffner and Geoff Kait, the genius behind this whole Machina Dynamica farce. Matt wrote me:

I teach music technology at an accredited university in Louisville, Kentucky. When I read your blurb on the inventions at Machina Dynamica, I was stunned at their awesome claims. Knowing full well that they are a total fraud, I've been baiting the company's creator with emails. All of the classic signs of woo'woo are here: no reputable references, no outside testing, devices work by mysteriously harnessing the laws of quantum mechanics, etc. I thought you might be interested in our ongoing email exchange. This man is stealing people's money. Please let me know if I can donate to your cause by helping to expose this man.

The email exchange follows. First, Matt approached the Machina Dynamica CEO:

Geoff, I teach classes on music technology at an accredited university. I would like to test some of your products and publish materials on them. I am very excited about the possibility of seeing and hearing some of your devices. Is there any way we might discuss this further?

A prompt response followed from Geoff Kait:

Hello, Matt, thanks for your interest in Machina Dynamica. I respectfully decline to submit any of our products for testing.

Persisting, Matt wrote back:

Do you have any published materials on the testing and performance of your products?

Geoff countered with a desperate alibi:

Matt – All testing information is proprietary. Performance data is also proprietary. All information that we deem relevant is published on Machina Dynamica’s web site.

Translated: No. Matt, ever patient, asked:

Ok, I understand. I wanted to perform an in-class comparison of your goods with other well known audio products. Additionally, I was going to publish some materials concerning comparisons between high–end sound technologies. How can I get information on your data? Have there been any reviews of your products in magazines or online?

In a somewhat ominous tone, Machina Dynamica answered:

I don't think you realize what you're getting yourself into. There is so much information available on-line you won't have enough time in a year or two to thoroughly examine it all, much less come to conclusions on the effectiveness of these products or how they compare to other products.

There was a review of Intelligent Chip by 2 PhDs at 6 Moons in Jan 07: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/photoncannons/photoncannons.html. There was a review of Clever Little Clock in Positive Feedback last year: positive feedback.com/Issue23/clock_nespa.htm. I have a white paper on Brilliant Pebbles at: machinadynamica.com/machina17.htm. I have a paper on Intelligent Chip at: machinadynamica.com/machina64.htm. Review of Intelligent Box by 2 PhDs at 6moons.com/audioreviews/machinadynamica2/ib.html.

Despite the mass of data contained in these references, our only interest at the JREF is: does the thing work? Similarly, Matt assured Geoff that he was undeterred:

I have students that can filter through much of this information. Also, reading things like this is what I do for a living. I have plenty of time to read, and if I only spend a single year doing research then I'm happy. Any additional material you have would be helpful. Do you have any other websites?

Geoff fired back:

Matt, my website has many pages; there is navigation at the top of the main page. www.machinadynamica.com

Ever gracious, Matt wrote:

Thanks, the pages on your site helped. None of the writing seems to describe the mechanisms of your inventions. Do you have the patent number for these devices so that I might see how exactly they work? I am very interested in the Intelligent Box and Card. I'm not seeing exactly what these do, and especially how they might work. I'm curious as to what exactly is changed on a CD to enhance its sound, as a CD contains data in the form of a dye. Do you change the dye somehow?

Thanks for all your help!

Then this salvo was fired off by Geoff:

Patents too expensive, furthermore I don’t wish to reveal certain information so I don't go that route. Ironically, much safer not to have patent in these cases.

The Intelligent Box/Intelligent Card is the evolution of the Intelligent Chip, which does the same thing as the Box. The box replicates the CD player laser and gets the active material very close to the CD, one thing the Intelligent Chip did not do the Chip was placed on top of the player chassis while the CD played for 2 seconds. But the effects of the Chip and the Box are the same. The explanation of the Box is the same as for the Chip – quantum mechanics photon interaction with the CD material. It's all explained in excruciating detail in my paper on the Intelligent Chip.

This is just blather, with no science factor at all, only buzz-words and fakery. And, obviously, a patent on such devices would not be too expensive, at all if they worked.. The USPTO [United States Patent and Trademark Office] tends to award patents to just about any devices mentioned to them, whether they actually exist or not, and whether they work at all. However, I find two things here with which I and Matt Schaffner can enthusiastically agree. First, I'm sure, as Geoff Kait wrote, that the effects of the Chip and the Box are the same. The Intelligent Chip does exactly the same thing that the Intelligent Box does exactly nothing. Second, yes, I'm sure that there is “excruciating detail in that learned paper.

Ah, but as we go to press, Matt reports:

Here's the latest from Geoff Kait at Machina Dynamics. Apparently he has now created a CD cleaner using "fake" atoms name brand atoms are so expensive. This is his response to my email:

Begin response:

The Box has a dedicated laser in it (so the box simulates the CD player "box" and laser). The advantage of the Intelligent Box is that the active material in the card is inserted into the interior of the Box so the active ingredient is very close to the laser and the CD, which is placed on top of the Intelligent Box when treating it. The top of the Box is clear so the CD is exposed to the photons of the laser and the photons emitted by the card when the laser strikes it. The active ingredient is contained in a thin layer spread out in the card's interior, like a sandwich. The simultaneous interaction of the laser photons and the Card photons with the polycarbonate layer of the CD improves the transparency of the layer so that when the CD is played the CD player laser "reads" the embedded data more accurately.

Comments Matt:

The active ingredient in the Card as for the Chip is actually artificial atoms! Pretty innovative for an audio product, wouldn't you say?

Oh, very

Paul
Bozeman, Montana
U.S.A.

Geoff,You can wrap it up any way you like.But,,,its just so hard not to make fun of MD.Little copper flying saucers taped to your window !Sometimes I feel bad that I make fun of your products.But everytime I see an ad like the flying saucers(or clocks,pebbles,,,)I dont feel bad.Sorry.But even the best joke gets stale after a while.So until you come up with a new product ,I am going to try to stop laughing at MD.

Posted by geoffkait (M) on January 23, 2013 at 14:20:08
Machina Dynamica.
Obtain a roll of adhesive-backed copper tape, width 1/2 inch. It can be either conductive or non-conductive adhesive. Adhesive-backed copper tape is available at Amazon and eBay, Radio Shack might carry it, who knows. Cut the copper tape into 1" x 1/2" rectangles - one rectangle for every window pane or glass door in the house or apartment. Attach one copper rectangle to each glass window and glass door. The copper rectangle can be placed anywhere on the glass, upper corner or otherwise out of view is OK. Be sure and attach a copper rectangle to glass in all rooms of the house or apt.

In Reply to: RE: My suggestion is posted by geoffkait on January 28, 2013 at 16:12:14
Seeing is that most of your potential customers peruse these forums You would have to be nuts to think anyone would now go and pay you to cut the little copper pieces for them ..after reading this thread.

You can buy a clock for $200 for super dooper fidelity. No, not a word clock,
an actual clock:
If this looks like a $10 Timex clock with a red sticker on it, that’s because it
is. Oh all right then, it’s not, it’s Machina Dynamica’s Clever Little Clock. How
clever? Clever enough to sell for $199 a piece. How can they justify this
2000% price increase? Why, because it’s been “extensively modified”, of
course. According to his website, Geoff Kait is able to do this using “concepts
and techniques originally developed by PWB Electronics“. Most likely, this
means the technique of buying something that costs very little money (e.g. a
crocodile clip) and selling it for very much money (e.g. £500).

But what does it do? Everything!
Remove the Clock from its clear bubble pack and place it anywhere in the
listening room. The sound will be considerably more musical and live
sounding. There will be less distortion, more information and a deep,
coherent soundstage. Low frequencies will be articulate, extended and
dynamic, high frequencies exceptionally smooth with phenomenal inner
detail. In other words, More of Everything!! Found this online

More stuff onlineJust incase you dont know the word an Audiophile is someone that obsesses over the sound quality of their stereo system, usually starting off by improving the large components like amplifiers and speakers and then eventually becoming so obsessive that they will spend ridiculous amounts of money on things that make very little or absolutly no difference at all to sound quality.

The companies that sell the usually back up their products with ridiculously convoluted semi scientific explanations of how they work and how effective they are.

Here are a few of my favourites I wanted to share with you, All from the same company www.machinadynamica.com...

Blue Meanies
Machina Dynamica's latest product, Codename Blue Meanies, is a set of 4 adhesive-backed 3/4" blue dots that are attached to the walls of the listening room, one dot per wall. If there are only three walls in the room, two blue dots should be placed on one of the walls. Codename Green Meanies are now available for the ceiling of the listening room, one or more per ceiling

Yours for the very reasonable price of $99 and if sticking 4 blue dots to your wall doesnt quite make your stereo sound good enough then they also do Green ones for $100

Top Banana

It might look like some yellow paper that you stick to the inside of your dvd tray, but it isn't that simple. Actually its a $64 bit of yellow paper you stick to the inside of your dvd tray

Brilliant Pebbles
A truly marvellous bit of nonsense described as follows
Brilliant Pebbles addresses specific resonance control and RFI/EMI absorption problems associated with audio electronics, speakers and cables, as well as acoustic wave problems associated with the listening room boundaries and the 3-dimensional space within the boundaries. Brilliant Pebbles comprises a number of precious and semi-precious stones (crystals) selected for their effectiveness. The original glass bottles for Brilliant Pebbles have been replaced by clear zip lock bags, which have a more linear response than glass.


The price? $39-$160
Im speechless

Found online always got a huge kick out of his gear.

The "clever little clock" is hilarious. It's a normal little battery powered digital clock with a...dolls eye or something similar on it.

There is also this "phone hack" he sells. You give him his number and he calls you, you pick up your phone and he does something on his end to improve the sound of your system.

At least, that's what I recall. I'll have to check the link again. It's been a while...

Geoff,This thread is not about the products you have mentioned.
Stereo5 asked about Machina Dynamica products .

Chad,Go ahead and try the pudding.

Posted by geoffkait (M) on January 23, 2013 at 14:20:08
Machina Dynamica.
Obtain a roll of adhesive-backed copper tape, width 1/2 inch. It can be either conductive or non-conductive adhesive. Adhesive-backed copper tape is available at Amazon and eBay, Radio Shack might carry it, who knows. Cut the copper tape into 1" x 1/2" rectangles - one rectangle for every window pane or glass door in the house or apartment. Attach one copper rectangle to each glass window and glass door. The copper rectangle can be placed anywhere on the glass, upper corner or otherwise out of view is OK. Be sure and attach a copper rectangle to glass in all rooms of the house or apt.

In Reply to: RE: My suggestion is posted by geoffkait on January 28, 2013 at 16:12:14
Seeing is that most of your potential customers peruse these forums You would have to be nuts to think anyone would now go and pay you to cut the little copper pieces for them ..after reading this thread.

this one is funny,,And I thought pet rocks were dumb...
Idiot Tax: $39.00 to $159.00 each
Ok these are literally rocks in a bag. What possible explanation could they have?
Brilliant Pebbles addresses specific resonance control and RFI/EMI absorption problems associated with audio electronics, speakers and cables, as well as acoustic wave problems associated with the listening room boundaries and the 3-dimensional space within the boundaries. The fundamental operating principle of Brilliant Pebbles involves a number of atomic mechanisms in the crystals.
Here’s a different explanation: YOU ARE SELLING TINY ROCKS FOR $159 A BAG!
Also, your web page looks like it was made in 1994 by a sixth-grader. Your so-called “white paper” is made up of half bad science and half the unintelligible rantings of a crazy man. Surely no one buys this crap from you, right? Right??
Wrong!
“Nothing in my experience compares to the improvements your products make. Before your products, this reference system was more than revealing enough to allow virtually every design change we make in our products audible. I believe that THAT ability of the system has now been enhanced at least a full order of magnitude.” – Brad, Revelation Audio Labs, July 2007
Well, if you learn anything from this article, at least you learned not to go to Revelation Audio Labs.
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M Lex 15 says:
April 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Who the fuck is behind this blog? Do you have any fucking sense of humor at all? Do you not realize Machina Dynamica is a humor site and these products are jokes?

Good luck with your shitty blog.

admin says:
April 25, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I wish that were true. But no, Machina Dynamica is a real site, not a joke.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/286/RipOff0286484.htm

Monkey Migraine says:
April 30, 2009 at 8:10 am
Amazing. The sad part is that someone is buying these. The problem with “audio enhancement” is that it’s all relative. Short of technical analysis, how could anyone prove something does or doesn’t “sound better?” If I paid four hundred bucks for some rocks to improve my sound, I’m going to want to believe the sound is better. Suckers are born every minute.

Mike says:
December 2, 2009 at 11:27 am
I actually think that Machina Dynamica is a joke site, and the ripoff report replies by the guy at MD certainly seem like long winded practical jokes. Enjoy the blog, but fairly certain these are very much so just pokes are companies like Monster who product $80 cables that you could buy for $1.85.

Stereo5,The above post are just some info I found online.There is also some info if you do a search in the archives.Hope that helps.

Sabai,I will ,thanks

Csontos,Geoff thinks he is the Great Gazoo!

Too funny,Geoff got cosmonium from his mentor Dr.Smith,,who was scammed,,,, called them brilliant pebbles and offers to sell them (and many other interesting items)to Audiophiles on Earth! Robot"Danger Earthlings Danger!"
Geoffs first product ,The Nimbus Unipivot Sub-Hertz Isolation Platform.The Nimbus was so tricky to construct and set-up ,that it was virtually impossible to duplicate! Went from the Nimbus to cutting pieces of copper foil into simple shapes he calls ,,flying saucers.OK!

At least Geoffs prices are realistic.His cousin from Sweden at coconut audio has a digital IC the adria for 100,000.00.Even made with Belden cable.Sell one a year and make a good living!

Maybe I will give one a shot and report back. Then once and for all we can say if there is something in it or not. I am not a fan of all talk and no trousers.
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