LYRA DELOS CARTRIDGE TOO BRIGHT, THIN AND SHRILL SOUNDING


Have had a Lyra Delos Cartridge for the last month and have any of you goners noticed a elevated treble, shrill thin bright sound from this Cartridge? I wish I had my HANA ML back. This Lyra sounds horrible!!!
jeffvegas

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I feel very bad for Jonathan Carr for stooping so low as to respond to the bottomless trench in which the OP obviously inhabits. These things develop so predictably. First what appears to be a reasonable plea for help and then a premeditated troll. I own a Lyra Etna Lambda and while value is relative, I know how superb it sounds and how much spine tingling hair-raised-up-on-the-back-of-the-neck thrill it gives me on a fairly routine basis. I also know how difficult it is for an Average Joe to properly set up a VPI arm with a microline stylus. But it is clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante's face (that dates me!) that the OP is either a troll or a victim of VPI's deficits or most likely, both. 
Also, I am extremely hard on Cartridges due to having a few beers and getting clumsy with the tonearm.
Translation-I am extremely hard on fellow audiophiles due to having a few beers and getting clumsy with my manners. 
Fwiw, my beerbelly friend(emy), I have been in the hobby for 45 years. How you can claim to "have forgotten more than you have ever known" is inexplicable, though again, the above explains a lot. 
I agree that an expert at TT set-up can make a unipivot sound very good, but there are inherent limitations to the VPI unipivot due to microscopic movement of the arm in the X-axis, the horizontal plane. A very good gimbaled arm does a better job of allowing all vibration picked up by the cantilever/stylus to be converted as is ideal into electromagnetic signal. A phono cartridge is like a loudspeaker transducer in reverse. A phono cartridge in a VPI unipivot arm is like a loudspeaker transducer mounted to it's cabinet with a bunch of loose screws. You know all about loose screws :-)
Not a VPI bashing party, bit it sadly has morphed into unipivot vs gimbal thread. Ugh.
No, it is fundamentally a troll thread. 
As I stated in my first contribution to this thread, there is a known pattern to these kinds of threads. 
The OP starts out sounding sincerely interested in finding some helpful tips though even the OP itself should have raised eyebrows;
Have had a Lyra Delos Cartridge for the last month and [improper conjunctive-is English the OP's first language?] have any of you goners noticed a [sic-should be "an"] elevated treble, [sic, improper use of comma] shrill thin bright sound from this Cartridge [why is "C" in "cartridge capitalized?] ? I wish I had my HANA ML back. This Lyra sounds horrible!!!
But soon it becomes apparent that the OP is not looking for advice but rather has his mind made up and only wants attention by attacking a well-regarded piece of kit. Then we find out the OP claims to be an expert at cartridge set-up and yet paradoxically entertained ideas that this cartridge needs tubed gear (utterly ridiculous) and then after allegedly pining for his trashed Hana ML states that he only likes MM, not realizing that the Hana is also MC. 
So no, while I did mention his unipivot arm not being the best vehicle for a Lyra cartridge twice, this thread has not morphed or drifted into a unipivot vs. gimbaled arm thread. It has developed into just one thing-an embarrassing cringe-worthy train wreck for our drunken OP. 
Let's examine this beaut of a post;
My ortofon 2m black blew the Hana and Lyra out of the water!!! MOVING COILS ARE HIGHLY OVERRATED.. Tubes cannot have frequency extension like a transistor. Mr Atmosphere, I sold your amps back in the 90's at a dealer in Southern California. Had a pair of your OTL's running the top of my Vandersteen 4a's. Nice amps, but they were NOT a neutral sounding amp and DID NOT HAVE the air and transparency of their solid state equivalent.  
So now our drunken sailor says his Hana was trash too as his Ortofon 2M "blew it out of the water". He claims he sold Atma-Sphere kit and yet he does not even know how to spell their name! He claims, without knowing me, to have "forgotten more than [I] have ever known" and yet he blurts out this gem;
When I heard a Demo of the Delos it was on an all tube system. Mine is solid state. There is the problem. I would not recommend this cartridge to anyone unless you have tubes which roll of highs and add body and warmth to the sound.
How can anyone with 35 years of claimed experience including being a high-end dealer make such a categorical statement about all tubed gear? This is not just cringe-worthy, it is vomit inducing!
fsonicsmith, please return to listening to your 1990's NAD gear believing its high end. lol
I have been a member here for over nine years as opposed to your less than two year participation here and unlike you, my system is posted. If you were to look you would see that it is not close to your bad guess. Why not share with us exactly what your system consists of?
I humbly request that no one bother responding to this guy's companion thread he just started. The first rule at the zoo is don't feed the animals.