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What is inside, like the emptiness of the bowl or the center of a wheel cannot be a debatable commodity...
« Thirty spokes share the hub of a wheel; yet it is its center that makes it useful. You can mould clay into a vessel; yet, it is its emptiness that makes it useful»
Now Geoffkait debate that with Lao-tse... :)
My best from the past to the future....
But I tease you indeed... I see your point also... :)
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For example I read about the work of Dr. Alexei Dmitriev, near 10 years ago... His work was confirmed by report of voyager space probe since...then discussion about the real causes of climate changes are not news to me at all...I can go on but the attention span of news papers readers tend to be short...And the climate changes ask for many articles, books, and thinking... At the times ostriches can deny easily reality without being stupid... "Times are changing" says I dont remember who... For the influences of the sun on world population, I will pick an old paper(1918), by William James Sidis, a man no one dare to call stupid, who in a short study show some evidences...This is fun to read, and if you dont know him, his life is stuff for science fiction books only... If you linked Dr. Dmitriev study with the Sun cycles influences on climate and people, showed By Sidis you will know why people are crazier than ever now...Because of these coming changes... But the real news is this one and this one is no more a theory like Sidis or Dmitriev but hard scientific measured fact that gives confirmation to Sidis and Dmitriev: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018RG000629 «The strength of Earth’s magnetic field in the past, recorded by rocks and sediments, provides a proxy for past flux of ultraviolet radiation (UVR) to Earth’s surface due to the role of the field in modulating stratigraphic ozone. About 40,000 years ago, mammalian fossils in Australia and Eurasia record an important die‐off of large mammals that included Neanderthals in Europe. In the Americas and Europe, a large mammalian die‐off appears to have occurred ~13,000 years ago. » to be continued in the link just on top Climate on earth and crowds ostriches psychology is unexplainable out of this link to the sun and to the general condition of the solar system... https://www.sidis.net/Revolution.htm https://www.huffpost.com/entry/passing-into-the-energy-c_b_405086
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I think you are more than right... and more than right is truth.... Thanks for this remark Millercarbon... My best to you....
But like said one of the great genius( I dont remember his name now) about mathematical truth....
« Truths exist in mathematics then perhaps God exist, but we cannot and never be able even for eternity to prove them all then the devil exist. »
Wow! what of a gem this song of Johnny Cash.... Thanks Mapman...
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Climate changes indeed there is.... They are linked to the Sun and solar system, not only to the degradation of eco system by stupid economical exploitation at levels never seen in the history... Actual situation of mankind is critical... No times for lazy brain... Left or right ideological agendas are a political distinction that stars, animals, and intelligent people dont lives with.( except historian and actually this week some American senators that cannot think for themselves it seems)... We need new political imagination for new era... That exist, but I dont want to be the sole provider of all links there is here.... :) I dont know if the actual situation of mankind excuse my rant...I hope so.... My best to all... last links perhaps: https://www.earth.com/news/planets-impacted-earths-climate/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earths-orbital-shifts-may-have-triggered-ancient-global-warming/ |
The actual changes are certainly anormal and produced by the accumulate impact of man activities in a short span of times...But there is also some other factors at play... I am no scientist for sure...But it was my point... And if the human factor is coupled with other cosmic factor (sun) the situation is not pink for near future.... https://phys.org/news/2017-03-sun-impact-climate-quantified.html |
Nobody can dispute that.... :) I report that only to demonstrate to some ostriches that the evident climate changes are not simple matters at all if we want to understand the situation... If we want to act it is not the Sun the important player, but the organization of one part of humanity that will be the involuntary host of millions of refugees for example, speaking here about only one of the "small" problems... Look inside. I cannot contradict you to say the least....Inside is the truth I speak about in the last days... :) |
Entropy is not the only factor... Life does not reduce itself to entropy... The universe is not chaos, beside chaos exist another kind of law : BIOS... http://homepages.math.uic.edu/~kauffman/BIOS.pdfIn the universe the high scale structures are cellular and not chaotic... Chaos is one face of something more profound... In early post I cite William James Sidis articles, but this genius wrote a book I read, and in it at 20 years old, he predict black hole and the cellular structure of the universe ( dark matter and ordinary matter like on a chessboard the black and white) in 1920...He predict the existence of organic non living matter in the universe for example... He wrote this book when he was 16 years old and published it at 20...It is something to read...:) For the anecdote this is the greatest I.Q. ever measured, (he outweigh simply the scale) and he speak almost all known languages including most indian languages of the Americas, invent an artificial language at 12 years old (vandergod) and speak before a crowd of mathematicians (Buckminster Fuller was there by the way and Norbert Wiener) at Havard at age 12 about the 4th dimension and the way to project it in 3 d spaces accurately... ( the text of the conference is at Harvard) His bio read like science fiction and all that is reality...:) His goal in life was meditating and being unknown...(a task easy for most especially difficult for him if ever even possible) His life is forgotten now because too much incredible to be trusted true by those who had not known him... His genius is so great that the comparison with other child prodigies like Wiener and Von Neumann kept the stakes on his side... He learn greek alone at 4 years old after Latin and french and some others … I know what some will think but it is true... :) His father, almost a retard because he speak only 27 languages, cannot teach him at 8 years old anymore :)...the father obtain medicine diploma at a speed that is a rare feat, wrote 17 books on psychiatry, field in which he was one of the most important pioneer scientist in the end of the 19 century... His best friend was William James the philosopher and psychologist...He named his son after him.... |
asvjerry… Thanks... I think your posts are not replaceable and make smile and think at the same times, a feat which I was never able to accomplish myself.... :) |
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In some years I will be dead and I must know something before dying...I decide that I cannot wait after physics and astrophysics to understand the ultimate nature of reality... Some years ago some physicist speak about the death of the universe like if it was the ultimate fate of the body-spirit of man...That was untrue.... But physics is divided by competitive theories, and no synthesis indicate the ultimate ground of reality, except indirectly trough the revolution of quantum mechanics... Physics is totally determined by the nature of the mathematical tools used and nothing more...The actual mathematical tools created in mathematics exceed by at least a century the tools used in contemporary physics...At least a century if not 2...Riemann created the geometry used by Einstein way before Einstein use it...Physics is constrained by some sensible aspect of reality in a way mathematics cannot be...Physics is linked to the structure history of only one universe, mathematics is cellular metabolism linking all universes...
My inspiration came young with some intuition and after in the course of my life by meditation on the structure of the universal informational field, a universal memory, revealed to me by great mathematical discoveries including the most recent one...
My study reveal to me the existence of an all immersive memory-information living field that is the only one reality...Mathematics reveal the structure of this multicellular entity and all mathematics is only that, the mind of god if you accept a metaphor of which the mind of man is only a small cellular part......
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:) I am not much in believing... I am interested in the seeing...And geometry and numbers are very powerful telescope and microscope...The only problem is that we need years of study to see and I cannot give the perspective free of study and in a few words... Even if I can show to you the structure of this cellular entity, I can, you will doubt your eyes, and you must do some meditation on the drawing indeed... This is the most complex object of the universe because it is infinite and there is in it appearance of randomness and miraculous structure of order, and this is manifestation of "novelty" at a scale truly infinite : http://www.sievesofchaos.com/ I wanted to see with the mind eyes not believing... My best to you... |
I use the term law metaphorically...I answer to your post about entropy and the fate of the universe...There is other "law" of information linked to physical process and to life process that indicate another direction for the ultimate fate of the sensible universe than death and "non sense"...... Bios is a method of data analysis that can reveal these" laws" metaphorically speaking that transcend death and random absurdity...Bios is the twin brother of chaos... Bios is a certain window determined by the dynamics of some simple deterministic equation that indicate "novelty" a name given by the discoverer to some structural aspect of the data that reveal an harmonic distribution of the order and of chaos... It is a method to analyse data and reveal some information that is not revealed by chaotic process ... «The discovery of Bios (Kauffman and Sabelli, 1998), an aperiodic pattern with the features of creativity (diversification, novelty, complexity) and the 1/f spectrum of natural processes provides a model to study creative processes. Bios is chaotic as being aperiodic, causal, and highly sensitive to inputs (“sensitivity to initial conditions”) but typical chaotic processes do not show diversification, novelty, complexity and 1/f spectrum. As creativity is fundamental, bios cannot be reduced to chaos. » I speak about that because we can analyse data in a way that may reveal an higher order of phenomena that trascend disosrder randomness and entropy ...It is not a law in the strict sense of the term, bios is a method to derive new information from any data...This information is linked to a new level of complexity not seen in pure chaotic process... https://www.innovation.cc/scholarly-style/2009_13_3_12_sabelli_bios-theory.pdf |
Djones
You are right Stengers is way more interesting than Chopra...Stengers by the way recently wrote a book about the great Alfred North Whitehead...I read it with pleasure...
There is a hiererachy level in complexity of information in all the books there is...
We must begins by books we can at least understand a little... And go on with more difficult books and subjects... This is an entire life history of reading and studying...
I like meditation and the links between subjects, concepts and perspectival view...
Something to see before dying...
A great Polish mathematician Sierpinski had inscribed on his tombstone : " here lied a traveler of the infinite"...
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I like Sheldrake by the way very much....And I think that you are right about him...But Penrose ( I admire him tough) is not in the same level league that the 3 mathematicians I named... I can assure you that they are not unknown " dudes".... And thanks I will read the" presence of the past"... Oups! I read it in french when he was translated many years ago (25 years ago)....
By the way one of my best friend deceased now has a measured I.Q. too high to mention, nobody ever heard of him at all...( The psychatrist that measure him says that he was schizophrenic to my not complete amazement tough) I teach him chess and I was never able to beat him after the first takes... Even if I am not a great chess player that say something...:)
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There is many very profound mathematicians that had explored that...
Some are unknown but many are known...
Georg Cantor, Alexander Grothendieck, Shinichi Mochizuki, are the most important one in the known realm...The last one call his theory inter-universal geometry, but in reality this theory is about the multicellular structure of an all encompassing field, I called universal memory, it is for sure my own takes on that..
The first one create modern mathematics single handly ...
The 2 others go to deep levels of abstraction and more in the way on revealing the universal memory cellular structure...
Grothendieck has even written 2 thousand pages in french about creativity and spiritual matters linked to his works in mathematics…( His written mathematics covers 80,000 pages probably) He is recognized by those who knows like one of the greatest mathematician right at the left of Archimedes or Riemann or Gauss, or the extraterrestrial Ramanujan...
Grothendieck is the genius spiritual father of the Japanese one...
The Japanese one exceed the ordinary understanding... Because his theory concern the universal links between entire historical universes and their structural metabolism...His theory is way beyond actual physics...We must wait probably 50 years at least...
I had no pretense at all by the way, I am not a scientist, only a very motivated dreamer...I only speak about that to suggest to you that perhaps there is other perspective than the death of this universe...And the absurdity of life... Believing is not seeing, but seeing is always believing…. Mathematics is the most powerful glasses there is...There are glasses only tough... There is other means of direct experience for sure without any glasses...That’s all...
My best to you...
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Wow! iI seems very interesting page turner... I will look for it certainly...I like entertainment and learning in the same stroke...Thanks Geoffkait
By the way I would have never called my numbers dreams a comatose dreams but it is on a way right on the spot.... :)
I already have it... I will read it thanks....
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By the way for a swift brain :) the saying of Christ in the gospels says more about him than any photographic evidence... Never mind the photo of Lao-tse, read the Tao-te-King, it is like instantaneous upgrade of the brain or an upgrade of amplifier to be even more clear...:)
It takes 2000 thousand years to mathematics to be up with the seer from China, and it is called category theory...Like often say one of my friend here... Hellooo...
I apologize if I tease you I am drunk... The wine from Australia is very good...
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djones51Stenger’s brief ’ Is the Brain a Quantum Device’ talks about Penrose and his notion the brain or consciousness is somehow quantum that he puts forth in His book The Emporers New Mind, the brain is to large and to hot to be a quantum device coherent or not. Physicists, neuroscientists and those in th AI community say the notion of quantum consciousness or brains is not supported by the evidence. Stengers are old ideas that begins to changes : quantum effects exist in wet biological living environment https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-spin-on-the-quantum-brain-20161102/ |
The fact that the mind interact with a quantum device in the brain or result from a quantum effect in the brain, was not proved at all, facts only goes in this direction, quantum mechanics also... But it is only theory, Penrose is not anybody, but this is only theory...
But pleased I beg you to point to me another theory of consciousness that scale from the quantum, towards the cellular level ( microtubules), toward a memory new theory, toward a theory linking gravity and quantum, with an original interpretration of the quantum (orch.Or : orchestrated objective waves reduction )… This is no proof that he was right, but wait, which other theory makes that possible?
I wait, put the link and I will quit this thread to read it with more than enthusiasm...
Mathematics tough for me is a more potent revelation than any physics theory of the nature of consciousness ….
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Geoffkait I can assure you that you look very much like him.... :)
You are a very friendly but reserved soul and you preach in the desert....
I dont even speak of your humor...
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djones51I point you to this article because you can see that these matters is not ruled impossible at all years ago... It is always a matter of experiments to decide... Then the affirmation that quantum effect in living cell is too warm is only that: an opinion no more so much trusted... The probable outcome point toward this possibility because Nature knows better than us... This is another line of research in the same direction... https://phys.org/news/2018-05-quantum-effects-photosynthesis.html No proof but.... what this is indicating is the direction of existing quantum effects in living cells... |
The brain is convoluted, by natural necessity; human reason is not in the necessity to be convoluted each day to promote an agenda.... Falsities by use of numbers interpretations are always that: rhetorical exact delirium...This remind us at the end of those who try to lift themselves off the ground by their own hairs...
The problem with lying is that an accumulation of lies modify the structural functions of the brains, and the lightning up of areas linked to emotions and cognitive controls and stress are in the process to light up always and always more easily with more lies... Except for psychopath that had no moral internal code then no stress...
Someone lying too many often without good reason to say so, except his own benefit, will be lying more and more easily by the absence of internal moral constraints, these barriers undermined, less firmly reflected in the function of his own brain...For normal people it is like learning to be a psychopath by decreasing the stress but being always at the end unable to be really one( increasing stress)... Lying always seems to be free of cost at first, but it is an illusion of the lying process itself...By this way of getting around our moral ingrained personality composure we cheat our own brain up to a point only...( It will be interesting to make a neurological interpretation of the lying process in the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden just saying my 2 cents :) )
These opinions of mine are not science, like all my posts, but reflections and interpretations of mine around science or other matters...By definition science has no opinions it is a process...
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Thanks we all need windex indeed.... :) |
You are right djones51But we can makes an opinion for ourselves....About God, or about climate changes, if we really think hard and dont lie to ourselves... Thinking hard is never stopping to think, and not lying to ourselves is always looking for something(truth) that cannot be our own property... Opinions are at best only marking steps on a new road to the mountain of truth... And " we're going all to the mountain" say some song... :) |
You cannot convince someone who does not wanted to be convinced whatever the rhetoric... It is already in the gospels spoken by an intelligent man of the past... :) And argumentative rhetoric is best served at the end by the purpose of greater clarity, not only and mostly to convince...
I do not need to convince myself about something I was seeing for myself trough interpreted facts (Never mind whether I am in the illusion or the truth)... The bridge between beliefs and reason is the thinking process itself; if this process stop, there is only the abyss of robotic stupidity at worst and at best habits the mind dont cares to correct...
« I am perhaps born with this vocation of being an idiot, but it is no more my daily job» Groucho Marx
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On the TV. right now are some perfect examples of the impossibility for a "wanted to be deaf person" to listen to facts whatever the rhetorics... I am amazed by the acrobatics exhibited by grown men establishing carefully and firmly a ladder descending to the abyss...
I am amazed but terrified...
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This thread displays for all to see the profound, enduring, unmistakeable scientific ignorance that infects, permeates, and taints so much of modern culture and what is particularly noteable in this specific thread is that this lack of understanding of even basic, elementary, fundamental knowledge is possessed by those who believe they have such scientific skill! I try to makes sense of your post clearthink... If I simplify your prose: Scientific ignorance that permeate this thread and all culture, is more profound in this thread by those who thinks to be scientific and are not scientific at all... If we simplify to see the vicious circle in your clear thinking affirmation, or botched argument, or decree : Scientific ignorance is everywhere especially where in this thread there is some so called "scientific affirmation"... It is clearer in this way, but is this makes sense? We can reduce that to his simplest form : scientific ignorance is everywhere particularly here... An interesting question indeed : Is clarity of expression a sufficient fact to create meaningful sense? Certainly no, for example in pleonasm and common places.... The affirmation of this post reduced to his simplest expression is evidently a common place and a pleonasm combined ( night is dark everywhere especially here or to be more in the spirit of this thread, snow is white everywhere especially here)... What distinguish it at first glance, from a single common place, or from a single pleonasm, or from the combination of the two, are only the use of other rhetorical means... These other rhetorical means for example are these interesting rhetorical fact about your post where there is a triple repetition, three times in 6 lines : ( "profound, enduring, unmistakeable ... that infects permeates, and taints...lack..of basic, elementary, fundamental…") That is the mark of pure reactive emotional response or active propaganda, I leave the choice to you...I say so because nobody in particular, no affirmation in particular, is clearly the target of this incomplete syllogism which look like a flag in the wind... I apologise for making fun of this post, but we are all here to learn and have fun...And I prefer rhetoric sometimes to the science of some... I apologise to djones51 because my post add nothing to his short and pertinent remark....Except more fun at least for me... :) |
Saying that the earth is there for more than 50 years is not an argument against climate change, and is in the drawer of totally useless claims just upper to the one where some dogmatic claim that the earth will be going better without humans at all... The first affirmation is a truism, the second an absurdity...
I am sorry to say that.... Between truism and absurdity there is precisely tough a place for the thinking process to begins out of these drawers so to speak...
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To be afraid of sharks presence in our bathroom is not a fear corresponding to a probable real event to say the least. (odds are too high)...
Those who fears about the future of humanity linked to climate change are absolutely not in the same category at all...
Even the more extreme naysayers will admit that, except those insane...
Then any reasonable sceptics, forgetting his rhetoric and his propaganda, can discuss with any climate changes scientist or people, forgetting their own rhetoric and propaganda... The question is simple : are we able to discuss, forgetting rhetoric and propaganda ?
Do our egos need climate changes debate to boost themselves?
Or are we looking for "truth" ? I put truth in parentheses because it is not an object to be owned, nor a price in a competition, or the result of a vote, not even the mechanical conclusion of a syllogism...It is a direction for our own thinking process each one of us and the meeting point for all of us if we look carefully for it...If you dont understand this last point ask your wife about it... :)
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A frog in hot water studying the thermometer theory and saying, at 99C or 210F, this water dont boil at this time being and was not boiling either in the near past.... This is an example of the passion for science studies or perhaps also an example for a complete absent mind idiot.... The context determine the interpretation...
This story is the same as the popular tale describing the absent minded professor blindly walking in a hole...
One of the possible interpretation is that in the general context of life it is also necessary to be attentive to the surroundings indeed if our life has value to us and not only attentive to some narrower idea or facts...
Is it necessary to wait before acting toward a common valued larger goal, even if all proven facts justifying the action are not there ?
In justice we dont act and lynch someone without waiting for the last of all the facts that are proof of his guilt...
Is the survival of humanity asking for the same precautions than justice for someone ?
Is a common conscious acting valued goal must be suspended because some affirm that the facts are not all there?
What it takes to act?
A judge decision, a last scientific fact? The problem is: can we wait till these last scientific facts will come if they comes in times? That looks like the last centigrade degree on the frog thermometer...
The circle is complete, we act by our sense of values, not only by the relative accumulation of facts...A frog who value his life dont study thermometry in hot water...
We act by gauging facts and values, they are nothing without one another...
We cannot and never will be ever able to say that we absolutely know, we only in a relative manner gauge facts against values and values against facts...This is history...
Goethe says :« History of science is science itself»
And for the end:
Some say that the frog has cheated and falsified his thermometer, and affirm that his proof study concerning all the problem of the hot waters is not existing and not valid and at the end this is proof that there is no boiling water at all...
Submitted metaphors to meditate....
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I like asvjerry because he has many qualities I humbly admit I lack...I welcome him with djones51... |
"the world are changing" - Bob Dylan
In the storm I can see
the writing light that will be
the sky and the ocean furies
are only the spirit letters floweries
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"it is a magical world" - wise chap
We live in a magical breeze
Nothing hanging down
wedding bells sing
And angels freeze
with great ease
Whiteness cover up the ground... :)
I will stop here because I cannot correct Bob Dylan and Geoffkait at the same times... :)
Thanks for the nodding help Geoffkait...
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I dont think that it is a good idea to speak about politics here....Climate changes are a survival divisive problem but not mainly a political one, a consciousness and scientific one first....
But politics is hardly necessary to discuss , like religious affiliations... Being proudly aligned with some popular divisive clown (tough less popular now ) , is perhaps a very bad idea to proclaim in an audio forum about snow...But speaking to those that dont use their brain except for agendas analysis is foolishness... I am a bit aimless I concede... I dont work anymore and this does not help...I feel almost forced to apologize for being here... Typing some post here seems preposterous...But I must remember the wise one between us... Those who had suffered... I am a bit too tragic this morning... Forget this post....
" Einstein was wrong, stupidity is not infinite, the will is" Groucho Marx
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Dont bother yourself, retort mind use tricks, they dont need to think, tricks and watchwords are enough...Their habits makes them see tricks and watchwords even in scientific studies they dont like... |
He is like the puppet master he is serving, reality come by decree in one stroke... Name it, it will be it...God was like that by the way, but off course a better chap... :) |
"It is best to be on the right side of history
Because this lapse for eternity."
How do we know which is right ?
"Dont stop to think, and dont loose sight. "
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Which is bad enough all by itself. But the lies are all being used to steal my money, and time, and make everyone’s lives worse not better. Then on top of that they all preach and carry on with their sanctimonious we’re the good people act when in reality they’re Pod people, Stepford wives, Children of the Corn, Zombies. This reminds me of the Simpson shows...A perfect mixed balance of right and wrong, false and truth, impossible to work out...Only one way left is smiling...If it is possible out of the show tough... :) But we are most of us, me included, guilty to pity ourselves, to amuse ourselves using others, to bend the truth to our own taste, but at the end, perhaps it is necessary to think harder and be silent...I say that part of my post to myself first like a prayer... |
"Stubbornness is changing anything except the one idea in your head" Groucho Marx
"Scientific mind are rarely right more than one day, they are the only minds that always recognise to be wrong most of the times " Groucho Marx the real brain behind Popper :)
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I am baffled... Do you read other thing than newpapers?
In biology, what is relatively negative for a living organism and relatively positive for another one are in reality a feedback very complex mechanism called ecosystem and metabolism... The 2 are in fact the same because for nature inside and outside had no absolute separation...Plant and humans are inseparably linked ...
Then even arsenic for example or other chemicals are good for health sometimes or in an infinitesimal dose...This fact is a microbiological medicine fact called balance homeostasis in living systems...The keyword to understand is not bad or good Co2 , it is the concept of balance...
Caricatural pose separating facts in separate drawers for the knocking down of someone is a clown act in a circus not science lessons...
By the way i am an ignorant, but I pretend to be able to think under no flag....
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mijostyn
Thanks for your balance reply and polite one...
I am not a biologist at all, then ignorant for all these matters...But looking at various climatic geological scales will only reveal the regular periodical instabilities, or homeostasis of earth and the cosmic exterior influences...
The fact that human activities accelerate or contribute to reverse some trends is the crux of the matter...I dont think it is possible to humans now only by themselves to revert earth cycles, but to act in unity without increasing the worst to comes is the goal, not going on with past used economic concepts that applied no more to what will comes ...
Lesson from the past in human life or in earth life is only this one: Nothing is perfectly stable... But we can and must consciously adjust ourselves, especially now it is possible for the first times in human history...
Negation of changes, pursuit of the same economic habits had no more sense...
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I like snowflakes, prime numbers, music, they are linked; and some other not so linked delicacies.... :)
"The brain is the only time machine " Groucho Marx
"With the right forgetful functor you can modify the world at will " Groucho Marx at college.
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"We have only four years left." ___ James Hanson, director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies, a division of NASA. Predicted in 2009.
Frank Very easy to deform truth indeed... This was not false doom prediction, this is an urgent invitation to act after his own reading analysis models conclusion and to act at the right times window, being right scientifically speaking or being wrong is always a possibility and a chapter in science history; but not urging to act in your soul and spirit when you think so is criminal... Then cititation out of the context of this model analysis window that urge humans to act, interpretating that like a doom prediction only, and after that suggesting that this prediction is patently false because we are all here, this is bordering on fraud practice at worst, stupid political propaganda at best...I dont know what your profession is but like mine it is not science... This guy is not an angel nor Einstein and many serious people criticize his exaggerated interpretation but it is no excuse for you( not a climate scientist or are you one of his peer?) to reduce him to be a total fraud by linking his urge to act to doom prophecy only... Balance of views on many levels is the culprit of thinking process... I apologize for a second times I think to nonoise that say the same thing shorter and better than me before me, I confess to have many human defects...:) |
If you dispose all odds numbers, beginnings with the number 5, in a 6 levels rectangular infinite array of equal little squares on each level and go looking for the primes, chasing them with the chess movement of the rooks, the bishops, and the knights, you will see all the primes only left...Squaring each primes will gives you all the rest to infinities.... Very beautiful and containing visually the flavored essence of number theory...Begins with the number 5.... :)
After that,transpose this rectangular array on an hexagonal tiling plane instead, beginning with 5 also, around a center hexagonal unit of the tilings and you will see the primes numbers lightning on 2 of the 3 axes … This hexagonal increasing spiral between these 2 axes is one of the mysteries behind snowflakes and number theory...
These abyssal geometrical harmonies are veiled by the, at first glance, trivial numerical fact that all primes are congruence modulo 6...The Euler Pi/6 formula for the sum of squares you will see...
I suggest that like an unending puzzle to mind bored by agendas...
This meditation opens for me some beautiful doors ...
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I think I will side with you against dogmatic Groucho... :)
By the way I summon Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway at your recommendation in my own time machine and I thank you for that ...
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Why do radical environmentalists appear to be so anti-human? Is there a hidden agenda there somewhere? Because in any crowds, in any trends, there is out of the Bell curve rarities, eccentricities of the mind, obsessions, improbable possibles that are only the heads and tails of some event in the history of consciousness ... The error is to identify ourselves totally to one trend, without no more conscious critical thinking...And believing that exaggerate foolishness is the mark of the trend we dont like only is precisely the end of our thinking... For example political parties, being democrat or republican, are not suppose to be only opposite ennemies camp, but waves complementing each others in a true acting living democracy where like in a living organism one trend complement the other in a balancing free political act ... When they are only enemies democracy is dying or dead...It is on TV if you open it up, near the Simpsons show... |
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Trees are sentient living beings and conscious one.... Imagine our amazement when we all will awake to that fact? It is no more new age salad...
You can smile at me or with me …. :)
I dont know how Glupson will check this fact.... :)
Oups! it is not a fact, only a dream being true, but a dream for now for most....No need checking...
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