Lou Reed/Metallica "Lulu" just awful

Don't know anything about this record, but it will have to be pretty damn awful to supplant Metal Machine Music as Reed's worst ever.

When Lou's on his game, he's damn near unbeatable - but MMM is all-time stinker.

For the record, I am aware of the history of MMM. I'm also aware that Lou Reed has - to this day - denied the story. I doubt that he has liability concerns these days, but he may still be being cheeky.

Either way, I wasn't commenting on the intent behind the release of MMM, merely that it sucks.

Marty

I like a lot of the Velvet's material - and I suspect that it was really influential for guys like Brian Eno and the others who started the process of "abstracting" the r'n'r backbeat for more than momentum and urgency. I also like Reed's first solo album (s/t) and Berlin (almost despite myself). After that (1973?), my response to his records started a long, pretty steady decline. Only a few of his records over the last 40 years have registered for me at all.

Marty

Chad

For the record - again - I never said that the record was intentionally bad. I said that, I, too had heard the story that it was deliberately bad and that Lou Reed continues to deny that it was deliberately bad. I don't know whether it was a misfire or if he intentionally delivered a turd. I just know that it sucks.

Further, I never called him brilliant - I just said that I liked a fair bit of The VU material and that it was highly influential on a lot of the people who re-shaped rock in the late '60s/early '70s. That can be confirmed by a quick listen and/or some research. Why not see who covered the VU songs from 1970 forward for a sense of this?

I also like his first two solo records.

I even mentioned that he has done very little over the last 40 years that I find interesting and you call that adoration?

Huh?

Marty