Looking for a good 5.1 AVR


This forum has ben extremely helpful to me in the past re 2 channel systems and I must say that you did not steer me wrong.
Now, I have taken the path to home theatre and am looking for a good AVR receiver that is 5.1 and supports HDMI. I need about 90-100 watts of good, clean power and a unit that is able to deliver responsive Home Cinema sound and one that has good video capabilities. I know I am fussy here but value on AVR 's seems to have escalated in the past 5 years! Music performance is a plus but I have my dedicated 2 channel system for that already. My budget is modest, about $500-$700. So far, I am considering the Yammy Rx 665 and the Onkyo tx sr 706.
My speakers are 2 way 8 inch inwalls from RBH (5), a velodyne sub (OK not great, 8 inch)RBH speakers are 8 ohm, 90 db for sensitivity.

Any input is appreciated. I do not need multi zone capability, btw.

Any suggestions? Thak You,
blowfin

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I would keep away from Ice and class D amps. They just don't have it (yet). I have the Elite VSX 92 (linear amp). The SC's mentioned above are Ice. The Linears blow them away. I am eying the Marantz for my next receiver upgrade. Marantz one of the few not going the Ice route. Ice is good for manufacturers-not so good for the sound.

You can easilly hear the difference between Ice and linear if you compare them. The Ice is flat, no slam and just no emotional connection.
Vicdamone,

Thank you for your very well written and informative post.
I'm a big Elite fan, just not an Ice fan, so, regret, looking elsewhere to upgrade my receiver. Manufacturers like them because they're cheaper to make, don't need as much room in a rack as they don't need the ventilation and can offer consumers high(er) wattage at a lower price, which generates more sales for them. I do believe that some day, they will get better, but, for now, just not my cup of tea.

The Ice just doesn't give me that presence and impact that I desire. Class D's have been used in subs for ages, agreed, though it is much easier to reporduce an 80hz (or below) somewhat monophonic bass frequency than it is to reporduce the entire frequency range needed for HT. I, personally, am very dissapointed with the direction many HT receiver mfgs are going, embracing the Ice technology. I have heard the SC-07 - had it in my home for over a month (already boken in by dealer) and. for me, it just isn't there yet. We swapped out the SC-07 the other night and went back to the VXS-92 and watched "Knowing" in Bluray and after the first 20 minutes, my girl and I both looked at each other and said "wow". Pure chest pounding, absorbing xperience. With the SC-07, we hadn't felt it (in every bluray we threw at it). With the SC, the highs, mids and bass was there, soundstage decent (though no where as wide, or deep as a linear amp), but the biggest thing for me is the emotional impact.

The new audio codecs are absolutely excellent, and an exponential improveent over compressed dolby digital. Perhaps most who are experiencing the new codecs for the first time are doing so through the class D amps, so, it is easy to believe the better sound is due to the new amps.

IMHO, you need some pretty large power supplys (and good output tansistors, obviously) to bring that HT experience home. ICE amps just aren't very accurate, yet.
Vicdamone,

I realy enjoyed the discussion. Also appreciate the compliment on the system. Good luck with all and I appreciate your sharing your thoughts.

Dennis