Line Magnetic 219ia vs Mc225


I am currently changing things up my system. I am looking to purchase a tube amp and have narrowed down quite a bit. I am unsure however, whether it would be more wise to go with a SET design or a push-pull design. The two amps in particular that I have in mind are either a Line Magnetic 210ia or 219ia SET 845/300B amplifier, or a vintage mc225 push pull amp with 7591 tubes of course. I waved the idea of a primaluna around but am pretty set on the two amps I’ve mentioned.. More will be familiar with the mc225 than will be with the line magnetic, but they get stupendous reviews and feedback, placing them as some of the best out there, next to shindo etc., in the tube amp world. The 225 obviously has its cult following as well, and is renowned and said by many to be maybe the best Mac amp of all time. (doesn’t matter)... anyway..

I am predominantly a record listener, but also listen to some digital and CD. My source pieces consist of a VPI Classic 2 turntable with a Soundsmith Zephyr 2 cartridge, an OPPO 105, and a Marantz 7701 preamp/ phono stage.

I have sold my previous speakers, and will be picking up a pair of 60’s vertical cornwalls this week. 102db obviously means that i do not have to consider wattage as a factor at all. I listen at low to moderate levels generally. Even 2 watts will have the cornwalls blaring. At this point the consideration is quality of wattage and current. The current will be responsible on the power to drive the 15" bass drivers in the cornwalls way more so than the wattage. The line magnetic SET amps will have no issues driving my speakers as they have large quality made transformers and move tons of current.

Here is the thing. I listen to jazz, classical cello and bass arco works, etc etc. I like soft rock as well. I also listen to very aggressive forms of rock. Hardcore, metal, thrash/speed metal, power violence, sludge, crust punk, etc etc. Those familiar, know what i mean. I am unsure on whether to go with a SET amp or PUSH PULL. Will one suit me better, or does it not necessarily matter, and either should do just fine? I know that the mc225 is known for being tubey, however natural, tight low end etc. The 219ia is known for being extremely transparent, refined, with a bold tight low end, beautiful 300B midrange, etc. Read Steve Huff’s review of this amp if you are unfamiliar. He calls it just about the best amp he has ever heard..... However will it does for the heavier stuff i listen to? This music is listened to on LP form more than less, and is recorded well and many are analog recordings.

Any input by those familiar with these two amps OR with push pull/SET amp comparisons in their own setups, please chime it with advice. I do appreciate it!

jkull

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I auditioned the Mac 225 with Dahlquist DQ 20s many years ago for a good while and really liked the way it played music, although it certainly wouldn't be considered uncolored. But it was enjoyable and that counts for me.
Just 3 weeks ago, I had a long listen to the LM 219ia on the Devore Oragutans, and I think this is just a superior amplifier. So beautiful, but adaptable to music of all types, an even though it is delicate, it has a great feeling of power in reserve; the feeling that it can handle anything. It is layered, and quiet, and just plain enjoyable. I felt as if the music was coming to life in front of me, and I was forgetting about the amplifier. And this was with the stock tubes.
I stated this before, but I did audition it with the LM 518 on the same day on the same speakers, but to my ears, there was no competition. The 518 sounded course by comparison , and lacking in other areas. If I had not heard the 219, I probably would have though that it was good.
I love the Cornwalls, and I bet that it would be an incredible marriage.
I didn't get to hear the LM 508 although the dealer had it the same day that I heard the others. I was curious, and it is physically beautiful. A lot smaller than the 219ia. I would be curious to hear it, but I doubt it would top the 219ia.

Yes Charles, it is in a different league. I know what you like, and I think that if you needed more power, which you don't, you would really like this amp.

It is really nice to see a discriminating listener discover Klipsch Heritage speakers and not get bashed by other members. Having owned many very good speakers in addition to K-Horns and now Epic CF-4 speakers, I can really understand jkull's excitement at his discovery of the Cornwalls. I recommended them years ago to a music loving non-audiophile friend because I knew he would love them and he did.

I have never heard them with an SET, let alone a LM 219, but I think that you are in for a huge treat. I have seen a number of friends react to the Cornwalls and my own speakers with surprise because of the openness and dynamics that make a lot of other speakers sound like...speakers!

All transducers have their faults, but there is a lot of good in the Cornwalls, and I think you're going to have a great time with them and that incredible amp.

Good Luck!

John     

Charles,

While allowing for differing tastes and listening biases, I feel the same as you. Whatever changes I make in the future regarding amp or speakers, I will never choose inefficient speakers or high power amps. There is just a sense of ease with efficient speakers that sounds right to me.   

I have to agree with jkull regarding the looks and sound of the 219 vs. the 518. But regarding the appearance of the 219, no matter how many pictures you see, and from what angle, seeing this amplifier face to face is really an experience. I think that anyone who is interested in 2 channel audio, tube lover or not, will get chills. It is just a thing of beauty! Even if you don't consider it beautiful, I still think you might get chills. What a design!