Ditto Coasternut. After listening to both tube and solid state pres and amps over the past year IN MY HOME SYSTEM, (cj, AR, Krell and ML), the Krell KCT and FPB via CAST combination has been the most pleasurable to my ear. Notice how the ML website now doesn't even spec the latest 430 series amps as doubling output into 4 and 2 Ohm loads. In my opinion, this is a major deficiency on the part of a manufacturer, that at one time, really held court with the very best. It was one of the main reasons why I did not purchase an ML pre and amp over the past year. Shame on Harmon International for degrading an otherwise fine line of components.