Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

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In a complete other order of idea...

I can recommend you this music which cured my anxieties and which i listen  each time i felt bad:

it is not recreational piece nor new age piece but a real healing music repetitive and deeply penetrating : 

Jonathan Goldman is an expert in meditative and healing music but i tried many of his others pieces so good they are they dont reach to the level of this "medecine musical master piece"..

As i said it is not a music to be tasted and appreciated it is a drug pill nothing more nothing less  and it work..( it is a mantra grounded in the Christ name ) Dont listen to it in normal time wait till you will need it...We dont eat medical drug in normal time for supper...cool

When i was ill i could not listen my favorite music because i had a weight on my head and heart, only this music  could cure me....i used it for 35 years, the first time it was for severe panic attacks and after 20 minutes the worst was behind like a miracle...

I dont claim it will cure you but it will help you a lot if you are spiritually or physically ill ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJRpoUk-mpU&list=RDaJRpoUk-mpU&start_radio=1&t=111s

My favorite piano Works in the XX Century is Scriabin first, Then Shostakovich second but certainly Sorabji as a third...

Sorabji is incredible genius like Scriabin but as much as  Scriabin appeared spiritual  guide for humanity to me as much Sorabji appear to me as a mad genius whose piece can be irritating obsessive but life changing too ...

John Ogdon , a giant  pianist i discovered in  Busoni Piano concerto created the greatest version of the Clavicem Ballisticum  but this is not for all people the works is almost 5 hours , Dont buy anything but Ogdon by the way it takes a mad pianist with ferocious gift to play this piece :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxcD2yo1nlI&list=RDyxcD2yo1nlI&start_radio=1

 

But the best if you dont know Sorabji the more easy piece and also one of the most beautiful, is "the perfumed garden" and if you dont like this piece you dont like piano  : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vE2d28yjI4&list=RD8vE2d28yjI4&start_radio=1&t=14s

Or played here by Sorabji himself..:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZs01TevxbM&list=RDVZs01TevxbM&start_radio=1

 

 Musical time in Sorabji escape linear succession not as in Scriabin case which resemble a ladder we ascend or descend from time to eternity and back in one second, but  in Sorabji case as a circular complex labyrinth existing in eternity and from which there is no escape no beginning no end, no reason, save the infinite variation itself......

 

By "hasard" of life i encountered personally  the greatest specialist of Sorabji music many times and it enlightened me, i did not knew who Roberge was ..I was in my Busoni Faust discovery ( one of my rare favorite opera and the greatest performance of Dietrich fisher Dieskau with Schubert lieds) and i advocated for it to Roberge who answered me saying he was a musicologist specialist of Busoni as well as for Sorabji and this push me toward Sorabji ...it was 25 years ago ...

Here what he wrote :

«"Producing Evidence for the Beatification of a Composer: Sorabji’s Deification of Busoni" is an article by Marc-André Roberge published in The Music Review in 1993 (with publication in May 1996) that analyzes the intense and adulatory relationship between composer Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji and Ferruccio Busoni, suggesting Sorabji built an extensive body of work to elevate Busoni to a saintly status. The article discusses Sorabji’s persistent advocacy for composers like Busoni, who were not initially recognized by the musical establishment, and how Sorabji acted as a champion for them.

  • The core of the article is Sorabji’s boundless and unique admiration for Ferruccio Busoni. 
     
  • "Producing evidence" for beatification:
    Roberge argues that Sorabji’s extensive writings, particularly his critical essays and other publications, were a deliberate effort to compile "evidence" and promote Busoni to a near-deified or "beatified" status within the musical world. 
  • Sorabji as a controversial advocate:
    The piece touches on how Sorabji’s passionate advocacy for unrecognized but significant composers (including Busoni, Alkan, Mahler, and others) made him appear eccentric to many readers of his time, though his judgment has been validated by the composers’ current high status. »

@stuartk, @mahgister 

There is a wealth of Tatiana Nikolaeva on Qobuz. At least 40 albums. I am listening to her playing Bach's Goldberg Variations. A work I know well played by Glenn Gould, considered highly on Bach's piano music.

@mahgister 

Do you know Artur Schnabel's playing? If so, what do you think of him? 

@mahgister 

Do you know Artur Schnabel’s playing? If so, what do you think of him? 

Schnabel is recognized as a giant ...

But here i repeat what i know and recognized when i listened to him...

But you must know that i can only speak for the few musicians or composers i listened a great amount of time...

to be short, i am obsessive mind and if i fall in love with a musician i cannot stop listening to him...At the expanse of others... Love has a price or ask for a duty...

But you must know that i dont fall in love with many musicians, sometimes i miss or stay indifferent  to  true great musician...The heart is not neutral...

I cannot understand why i love Sofronitsky or Yudina so much  compared to others for example, be it Richter or Gilels..

it is a love affair motivated spiritually by my own soul journey...

The other reason i see, i dont listen often Beethoven piano pieces and Schnabel  is a giant here... I am in love with Beethoven quartets as the key to his soul...

I cannot explain it ... Ask frogman, he is a musician and less obsessed than i am, more "objective" in a way and more knowledgeable ...angeldevilcool