Krell Showcase --> Evolution S1200U upgrade nightmare


I've owned a Krell Showcase 5.1 system for quite some time and loved the sound. The video is the aggravating part of it. Short: 480p. I've used composite video and optical audio for DD 5.1 / DTS 5.1 - using XLR balanced and Sonus faber venere speakers. The Showcase processor only handles up to 780i and my sources all output 780p / 1080i from the compenent video outputs. So I was stuck at 480p - composite. 
I just bought a Krell S1200U on Audiogon as an upgrade - expecting DTS HD MA, Dolby TrueHD and 1080p video as the dividend. What I got was nothing. I get literally no sound. I tried HDMI and with that I either got "waiting for audio" or a really weak sound. I tied optical with component video. Picture was great. The unit says Dolby Digital 5.1 but there is no sound from any channel but the center and I have to turn the volume up to at least 60 (out of 155) just to hear it. 
I replaced the S1200U with my Showcase processor today - same connections - same sources - got 5.1 rich Krell sound - volume at 15 (out of 155) and it is getting too loud. 
Does everyone agree with me - this unit is defective? Is there anything I could try or do to troubleshoot this? Using analog video and optical audio was all I can think of. I unplugged all HDMI connections and unplugged the sources and still was unable to get sound. 
david_l

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The S1200 has a known issue where the digital DSP board fails.  This is common on the earlier versions of the board.  The "waiting for audio" message and static/poor sound were definitely symptoms of this.  So, yes, I completely agree that the unit is defective.  If you want to raise an issue with the seller and ask for return/refund, you are definitely justified.
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To fix this, Krell has developed a "Version 2" DSP board with newer chips (the old DSP chips were discontinued).  You would need to submit a "Service Request Form" on their website to obtain a RMA number for shipping back.  I don't know what the cost would be.  My S1200 had the failed board from the get go (new in box) and Krell covered it as part of the warrantee.  I imagine that It would probably at least be a couple thousand dollars.
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If you are wanting to keep this S1200 and try to work with it, I would test the 7.1 analog inputs first to make sure there was nothing wrong with the audio boards.  If this is successful, you know is a DSP board issue. 

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As far as the volume is concerned, I think that Krell made changes in the firmware and/or resistor ladder volume circuit with the new S1200.  I had an HTS 7.1 processor (same generation as your Showcase) and I would typically have the volume anywhere between 17 and 24 (really damn loud).  With the S1200U, I have the volume somewhere between 65 and 76.  At 76-80 it gets pretty damn loud.