Koetsu Rosewood Vs Rosewood Signature Vs HANA UMAMI RED advice please

Thank's. Now I confirm that you have a misunderstood of what is my last post to the OP.

Never mind,
R.

Dear @mckinneymike : Do you understand which the differences between facts and just a subjective opinion?

R.

Dear @astolfor : As I said no one can't argue any think against your subjective opinion what you like.

Now, if you give me all the electronic combinations you have in your different set ups and with which analog rig each one I can give you not my opinion but facts that will tell you which of those set ups are nearer or far away from the recording and why.

You are welcome,
R.

Dear @astolfor : " We liked what we liked. " no one can’t argue nothing or argue against a subjective opinion full of subjectivity.

Mi point is not that my overall point is through facts what’s the rigth way and why is the rigth way and that paper and other white papers confirms with out doubts that several times what we like it is just wrong but that is what we like it.

I like to be as objective as my first hand experiences in live MUSIC and room/systems ( 100+ differents at least. ) tells me through at least the last 40 years and to be " objective " I try to be " unbiased " everytime I make tests o comparisons between cartridges or tonearms or amplifiers or what ever.

The only compromise I have is with MUSIC not with the hardware to listen to and my target always is to stay nearer to the recording. Btw, I used tube electronics by around 8-10 years and learned that is the way wrong to stay truer to the recording no matters what. But that’s me.

Look when ay room/system quality level performance stays truer to the recording what you listen to is always way better that what you like in this moment: always. 

R.

Dear @astolfor : Due that you choosed a 12" SAT could be interesting what you can read in this link that appears in my 3 years all SAT thread. The information is signed by the SAT designer and is truly interesting for any analog audiophile that prefers and likes 12 " or longer tonearms against shorter 9"-10" tonearms.

I have to say that in the past and before the the SAT was in the market I decided to swtich from longer tonearms ( that was what I like it. ) to the shorter ones that always performs the best with any cartridge:

https://swedishat.com/SAT%209%22%20vs%2012%22%20paper.pdf


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @fjn04  : "  Doesn't Raul like MM cartridges better than MC's in the first place..."

Not really. I re-discovered MM/MI cartridges time before I started the long MM thread after that I learned that even that some of those vintage cartridges are really good, especially the MI designs, the name of the game still is LOMC cartridges. As lower output the better.

What I learned for sure several years ago is that only good all SS designs really can honor any kind of cartridges. 
No, tubes just can't do it and please don't ask why not even in a new thread because the issue is really old .

Anyway, the OP is already satisfied with his systems as you or me whit our systems and these is all about.

R.

Dear @astolfor :  Even that you don't asked and only posted I think that in your USA system the " best " tonearm must be mated with the KRS and the Etsuro that I understand could be " better " cartridge  with the Kuzma.  But due that you are the system owner and after the hours need it to both cartridges settle down and after its fine tunning in the arms you have in mind switch in between tonearms and decide where each cartridge performs the best according you MUSIC/sound priorities.

Maybe I have a misunderstood again and you already did it.

R.

Dear @astolfor : It is obvious that if I don't understand what you posted then my posts will be just with several mistakes but NO in no single way my attitude is that try that you look as an idiot this is a total misunderstood for you because I have a lot of respect for any human been.

I was who told you for the first time that it's your money. Maybe the problem with my misunderstood is that you did not write from the start the whole  astolfor systems  " scenarios "/stages but as always with every one that ask something interesting in this forum my attitude is always to help him it does not matters that many times my posts just does not looks that way.

You don't have to have bad feelings vs me, I certainly have not about you.

R.

Dear friends :  Both Etsuro cartridges that the OP bougth ( Gold/Bordeaux. ) from the distributor at a discount price of the KRS ( even at its regular price. ) have a reatil price of 30K !!!!!!!!!! where the retail price of the TT he bougth with that distributor has a retail price of only 16K.

I don't know what owners of the Etsuro Gold as @mikelavigne could comment about that " laughing " price.

Of course that the OP or any one else can't let pass that " incredible " bargain of the century.

I wish to have that luck and the question is that the OP or the distributor or Etsuro could explain that so low price.

R.

Dear @terry9  : Of course that no offense at all.  Issue is that the OP is very especial in some ways and he asked in specific for the KRS  and 4K maximum as his budget and the Platinum is up to around 60% of that budget limit.

That's all nothing more.

R.

Dear @astolfor : I don’t know why you are paying premium $$$$ for the Etsuro when the Umami Red and the Etsuro are designed and manufactured by Excel. I own vintage cartridges by Excel and are competitive even for today higher quality performance levels.

I told you that the Umami was very good alternative and superior to the KRS but yes it’s your money.

Btw, @terry9 why you still are talking of the KRSP when the OP asked and bought the KRS. Of course that the Platinum is way superior but it’s not what he will receives.

R.

Dear @astorfor : I can see that you really don’t read the overall information in the cartridge links I posted to you, look:

the ZYX ultimate Omega is posted directly by the USA exclusive distributor SoraSound.

The Benz Micro and the Dynavector links were posted for a seller with an impeccable feedback after hundreds of sold cartridge operations.

As I told you, any of these cartridges outperforms the Rosewood Signature. I owned the RSP and yes this is at the level of those cartridges and in some specific sound quality performance a little better and in others a little inferior but very good performer.
I’m not trying to diminish the Rosewood Signature but you ask for cartridges inside your budget.

All the cartridges in those links comes with a high discount over its retail price, are cartridges over 5K one of them around 9K and the owner of that ZYX has 100% satisfaction in its feedback.

I don’t care at all, it’s your money but if I was you I never buy the Rosewood Signature against the other ones even the Umami is better. But that’s me.

As I said good luck.

R.

Sorry for my last post that I was writing when you already pull the triger.

Btw, the linked cartridges are superior but you are really " fast gunman ".

Good luck.

Dear @astolflor : The Rosewood Signature Platinum is out of your budget.

That Hana is very good especially at its price but exist inside your budgets other alternatives with " better " performers.

Here two brand new cartridges by Benz Micro and Dynavector, both excellent performers. I owned/own both:


https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisad9ed-benz-micro-lps-brand-new-cartridges


https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisac350-dynavector-drt-xv-1s-new-cartridges

and here two ZYX cartridges in as new condition. Zyx is really well regarded cartridges :

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisab75b-zyx-universe-ii-x-sb2-cartridges

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9babj-zyx-ultimate-omega-great-new-product-cartridges

You can’t go wrong with either.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.