Klipsch speaker choices


Hello,
First post here but long time 2 channel guy. 

I currently have a system with Klipsch RF3 speakers and a crossover with stereo subs.  Sound is good but I think the highs and mids are still a bit edgy.  Bought a Schiit Aegir with passive preamp and see vast improvement.  All my interconnects and speaker wire have also been upgraded. I just listened to the RF7 iii but very briefly.  Initial impression is it was more laid back but I am wondering how that speaker sounds vs the Heritage box speakers.  I will probably listen to the Heresy 4 first but wondering if there is a difference in sound between the tower and the box speakers. 

I also have read about the Tekton speakers but am hesitant since I can't listen to them.  It is all over the place opinion wise about the Tektons.  The Klipsch Heresy are within driving distance for an audition.  They will have several models to listen to if I talk myself into going further up the cost ladder.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. 
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Hi i am the OP and love the sound of my CS B. I bought the complete speakers from him. However a different midhorn made from wood looked interesting. The tractrix horn lets some cabinet resonance interfere. I wish i had the expertise, a very high end version is possible. I think wood horn works with the one you are using.  The Alk is adjustable and wires can be run through vent til complete
That's 2 votes for the Forte's.  I will be able to hear the CW4. Forte 3, RF7 and Heresy 4.  If I wait a few weeks.  If I want B stock i saw RF7 for $2600.  Thanks again
I should restate.  I think most of the edginess comes from recording variations and loud listening levels.  The Schiit has brought good imaging and improved the sound immensely.  I think the other brands would be good except my amp puts out 20W@8ohms.  The bi-amp sends 100Hz and below to the sub so that does lighten the load on the main speakers.  The room has the suspended ceiling with drywall all around.  I have never looked at room treatments but am not opposed.  Thank you both for the great advise.  It sounds like you have a hard to find experience with many different models.
My deceased audio expert always put better parts in all my electronics and built me a crossover so I know first hand what good parts are.  It does baffle me why a manufacturer will save pennies on parts.  electrolytics vs film for example.  thanks
Thanks again.  I do have the subs and nice crossover so it sounds like Heresy would work.  I haven't got past the "shortness" yet.  Is the sound staging still realistic?  I did some reading about room treatments  and am still figuring it out.  The room is 12X20.  Ceiling is 7 ft but have the fiber, suspended ceiling, rectangles.  It is in the basement and have carpet over concrete floor.  Some walls were made out of 1/4" plywood for some reason and vibrates like a drum head at high volumes!!
I ordered a set of Cornscala style "B" this week.  I am buying these without listening!!  I am not too worried about it.  This is only the 4th set of speakers I have ever owned and I think these may be the last. 
Also,  I appreciate the thoughtful and informative info I was given by all who took the time to help me.  It gave me a good first impression of the forum. 

As far as the rest of my system goes, I feel I have it really dialed in.  Even with my 20 yr old RF3 the imaging, dynamics and sound are well above average.  I can't wait to go to the next level.

Tubes:  I see some talk about Dared. I think that is about 1200.  Actually there are quite a few on Amazon but it's up to you if that's where you want to buy it.  I also looked at the Carver which starts at 75W and is $2750.  Carver has a 5 year warranty on the tubes.  You won't see many reviews of Carver because he made the magazines mad sometime ago.  I just upgraded from a professional amp that my friend had modded to a Schiit Aegir and I can't get over the difference.  It was $800 and is solid state Class A at 20W.  it plays plenty loud with Klipsch!!  Has great detail, mid bass and soundstaging.  I have never owned tubes.
I retired and bought a set of powered speakers for my small office.  I had this system in the basement but hadn't used it for years.  My son came home and bugged me to play it.  It wasn't even put together after I installed carpet.  Well..the Sunfire preamp buzzed but it would play.  We put the passive preamp in and that helped.  I bought the Schiit Aegir and that helped but the old RF3 got strained and edgy when turned up.  So somehow I stumbled onto The Bob Crites speakers and bought the Cornscala B version.  Bob said this is the one he sells the most.  I let them send to me complete.  They are made out of Russian birch unfinished; 115 pounds each.  They are imposing things at 25 inches wide.  I have about 20 hours of play on them.  I am still messing around with placement, installed bass traps and we are putting side wall traps up soon.  The sound is much better.  I have not had a chance to sit side by side and A/B the Klipsch style sound with other style speakers but I feel these are very good sounding.  I played Vladamir Horowitz and the piano sounded real.  Electronic and rock music has at times scared me with the slam!  Full orchestra is dynamic and natural sounding.  The sound stage is quite good(taller and wider than the speakers).  I feel like I am listening to all the music I am familiar with for the first time.  By the way, Bob has upgraded drivers over the years.  These have a nice paper 15 inch woofer, I think a JBL midrange and a Selenium tweeter.  I feel I have a very nice system for about $4k.  That cost doesn't count the crossover, 2 subs and amp I have had for years.  The system will go to 30 Hz at 105 dB.  These are Eminence drivers for the subs.
Mr. badger_erich:  What a coincidence we both bought the Cornscala and are both retiring! I think you will be pleasantly surprised.  Give them a few hours of listening to break in.  Decided to clear coat mine.  Hand applying Danish Oil which can be rubbed off easily if you get some buildup in the corners. 
A Pass Labs XA25 would be my dream amp for these!!  My preamp quit so I am running my Bluetooth receiver directly into the crossover right now. 
I put clear Danish oil on mine.  I tried taking a picture but it doesn't show the true color.  It made them slightly golden but not much.  They look nice this way in my opinion. I do not recommend any pigment.  It can turn out really bad.  I think I will put a coat of Water Based Polyurethane on them.  If you are really handy, I have seen some with veneer that are awesome looking.  Obviously, that would be easier before the drivers are installed.  I am finding these are fairly flexible on placement but I have them out into the room about 4 ft and 32" from the side walls.  Class A amp or tubes is what I would get.  I can drive these to very loud levels with my 20 watt amp.  These come one brace for the midrange support and no batting.  I can feel some vibration in the walls but not sure if that makes them sound better if you install bracing and batting.  Bob says it doesn't matter.  Soundstaging is really good.  I really like these!
I have searched around and there aren't many reviews.  He has upgraded them over the years.  I am not a parts expert but the 120 tweeter is an improvement.  The midrange is a JBL.  The woofer is an Emminence, I think.  The woofer and tweeter are custom.  The D uses different drivers because of being 2 way These speakers are a great value if you have the room. 
I looked back through my notes from Bob Crites and son. I asked about the "B" and "D" version. He said the B goes higher than D because of the CT120 tweeter. And most people buy the B. I am not sure if it is because he steers them that way or not?
This all started with me looking at going from RF3’s to Heresy. then when I figured out I would have as much or more money into rebuilding or purchasing a set of Heresy.
I have looked around for opinions about bracing and batting these cabinets but since I am not a speaker designer or wood worker, I better be careful.  According to Crites these two changes make no differences in the measurements.
Canibefrank I would start with Crites speakers.  They have plans for a 2 way Heresy ported and the Cornscala 2 way.   They will cut out the pieces and send them to you or assemble them.   They sell any and all drivers with cross overs to match.   There is also a PI speaker that is similar but I know less about them.   Also a diyspeakers website/forum.  Everything from single drivers to everything in between.

Thanks for asking crouse99.  Yes, I have had them for about 3 weeks.  First of all, if you like the Forte or Cornwall, you would probably like these.  They are big at 115 lb each; almost identical in size to the Cornwall.  They are made of Russian birch.  The bass, midrange and treble are all very clean, fast and tight.  Imaging and detail are quite good.  They sound good at all volumes.  I think for what I paid for them they are a steal and a good sounding speaker. 
I am having trouble with an electronic crossover so yesterday was the first time I listened to them full range. I like mine better with the crossover. The sound is more balanced throughout the entire frequency range. badger_erich I would make sure ALK knows that you have different drivers. I found it rather odd that he makes a "one size fits all" crossover for the Cornwall and Cornscala. So does he need to make a new one? Unless ALK has changed it, it was made with older drivers. The CT120 is a new tweeter and the midrange may have changed as well since 2010 when Cornscalas came out. The best dampening advise I have come up with so far(opinion, but not expert) is carpet pad wrapped around the cabinet but not front and back. Mr. Decibel has said that the horns can also be wrapped. Crites told me none of this changes "any measurements" I did not inquire further with them about what measurements he was talking about.   These speakers really bring out the differences in recordings, good and bad.