Klipsch KLF-20 vs. Tyler Talyo 7U?


Here are specs.
KLF-20:
frequency : 34Hz-20kHz±3dB
power handling : 200 watts maximum continuous (800 watts peak)
sensitivity : 100dB @ 1watt/1meter
nominal impedance : 8 ohms
weight: 95 lb each
price: $1499

Taylo 7U:
35-20k, 4 ohm, 92db, 25-200 watts, 87 lb each, $3250

Similarities are the frequece range, power handling, and weight.
Big differences on sensitivity, impedance, and price.

I think KLF-20 is one of the best speakers in its price. Taylo Ref monitor seems to be one of the best in its league, but 7U would be even better. So, I would assume that 7U would be decisively better speaker than KLF-20, but I just cannot imagin unless I listen to them.

Has anyone listened to these two speakers? Any verdict? Am I right in assuming that 7U would be with all the goodies the Ref monitor has and would work far better in a bigger room?
ihcho

Showing 3 responses by vman71

I haven't listened to both, but have owned my KLF-20's for six years. My comments then will only be about the KLF-20 and it's qualities and performance.

My room size:
15W x 20L x 8H

Current system:
Two dedicated cicuits
Audio Magic Stealth Matric power purifier
EAD CD-1000 mkIII
Plinius 8100 SS integrated amp 100watts/ch
VooDoo Reference Bi-Wire
Let me also preface that I have upgraded my KLF-20's crossover networks with better parts.

Since the Klipsch speakers are very efficient, they will play alot louder, assuming that the amps are of the same power rating. Dynamics and frequency extension is exceptional. The only weak point which the KLF-20's is that the midrange is not the strongest.

If you do decide on the KLF-20's or any Klipsch for that matter, upgrading the crossover networks are an absolute must.
Ihcho,

I too have the KLF-C7 as my center with the KLF-20's serving as my left and right. I can upgrade all your Klipsch speaker crossover networks for you. I'll email you my cell and we can discuss upgrade options.

If you have a 50w int tube amp, no question Klipsch is a great match. Klipsch speaker love tubes!

I'll drop you my contact information.

Mike
JK,

Since you own two sets of KLF-20’s, one stock and one with upgraded xovers, it would have made sense for you to comment on what you think the differences are between the two. It would also have made sense for you to describe your room size and system to give some perspective on your comments.

You say “That's why I like to get a detailed technical evaluation that is complete to really sort things out logically to weed out over stated dramatic hyped up statements to the real true facts of improvements.” K.I.S.S. – Keep it simple stupid…..it either sounds better or it doesn’t. Obviously, you don’t read/belong to the Klipsch forum, because you would have read/known that EVERYONE who has upgraded their Klipsch xovers, recommends upgrading Klipsch xovers because of the sonic improvements. They even go as far as saying “you haven’t heard Klipsch until you’ve upgraded the xovers.” When it’s a unanimous statement like that, that speaks volumes. So it’s not just my ears.

I took the time to familiarize myself with my KLF-20’s in stock form for 4 years, so I know how good they are in stock form. I then spent my personal time and money to upgrade the internals, which (since I did the work) know how cheap the parts are and that those cheap parts will hold this speaker back from their full potential. So let me make this clear for you, the KLF-20’s sound very good in stock form but until you upgrade the xovers, you will never hear the full potential of these speakers.

You say “Klipsch generally makes good quality crossovers that sound great in original stock form right out of the box.” If that was the case, then why do the majority of people on the Klipsch forum upgrade their stock xovers? That is because the stock xovers use very cheap parts, plain and simple. Now, do they sound good in stock form, well that depends on many things and is very subjective. Overall, yes they do sound good in stock form and many people could live with them that way. For the people who want to get the most out of these speakers and take them from good to great, you have to upgrade the xovers.

That is factual and honest advice, from a person who has owned these speakers in stock and upgraded form; from a person who has taken the time to verify and research the quality of components used in the stock xover networks and carefully select better replacement parts with higher performance capabilities.