KEF ls50 meta’s are on the way


Got a demo today and ordered a pair. Should arrive next week.  Will shootout with my current ls50s when they arrive.  Stay tuned.  
mapman

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The Ls50 metas suffer from too many backwaves from the woofer so they are not good speakers. If you think I am wrong, prove it.
All you need to absorb the tweeter backwaves is a bit of foam. It is not rocket science. 
When they arrive and you set them up, just remember that the pesky backwaves are still there just as they were in the original LS50 and that it wont be long before you hear those nasty backwaves!

You will be looking for another upgrade in a year. I guarantee you mapman. These nasty LS50 never had much bass anyway. And that nasty cone material they use can sound a bit harsh!


The problem with the KEFs is that they dont sound good to me. Ive heard the ls50, ref1 and blade. The blade was the only one that was tolerable.The engineers at KEF have a lot more work to do before they can impress a master audiophile such as myself.
You cant absorb down to just 600hz and call it a day. What abut the range from 600hz to 50hz? Why is it okay for that to be ignored?
the attenuation is down to 620hz not just the range of the tweeter
How do you attach the absorber to the drive unit so that it stops absorbing below 620hz? I dont see how that works.
Should i bother listening to these speakers? I could get a demo however keep in mind that i heard the reference 1s and wasnt impressed. 

I heard the blades and they were not bad. The blades would be acceptable for background music or for the average non audiophile listener. 
So if the LS50 Meta arent better than that they are not worth my time.
No, because they're NOT "custom-designed" for your ears.
In which case they need to be modified so that they are custom tuned to my ears. 
The kef meta are the same as the old kef ls50. The stereophile review shows they are tuned identically to the old version. The meta has a dip in the presence range. Cheaper to buy an EQ and you could get the same result. The metas have one problem as do all other box speakers. They suffer from dreadful NOISE that comes from the backwaves reflecting around inside that box! Unfortunately John Atkinson has not mentioned this as it would cause a drop in sales. In ten years, audiophiles will look back at this thread and be laughing at all the fuss created over the dreadful ls50 metas! By then, the next state of the art speaker will have arrived on the marketplace! I cant wait to see what KEF comes up with next. META 2 Anniversary edition!!?
 Can you please provide a link in the Stereophile review where they measure the difference in distortion between the old and new versions?
I never mentioned anything about distortion. They did compare the ls50 and the meta and the graph shows the response is pretty much identical. 

The new Meta has a significantly smoother response.
Its not significant. Its only a couple db at most. You could easily do that with an EQ and it would cost you far less than buying a meta. 

It is virtually a given you have not heard the Meta and I suspect not the original either.
I briefly heard the ls50 and they had no bass. Also the sound quality changed too much when I moved my head up or down. The metas will be no different in these respects
Come back to this thread in ten years time and we will be able to have a discussion about how bad the metas are compared with whatever speakers exist at that time. If you came back in 100 years, just think how horrible the metas would be by then!?

The original Ls50 speakers were PERFECT until the metas came along. History will repeat itself. Just you wait and see.

I dont want to hear about how good a speaker is. I always like to know what things can be improved. If you are unable to figure that out thats ok but its disingenuous to pretend that they are perfect. 
@high-fidelity-connoisseur

If you are still living at home with mom and dad you should move out and save up for a pair of Magicos! Jealousy will not get you far in this hobby. 

He's a troll, something he has been accused of by others and has, at least by implication, not denied.  
If I prove to you that I'm not a troll, does that automatically validate everything ive said about speakers? If you want to outdo me, name calling will not get you far. You either prove me wrong or stay out of the discussion.