KEF 107 without Kube


I'm about to buy a set of KEF 107s without the Kube. My understanding is the Kube basically bumps up the bass to make the speaker more flat and lacks bass/body/punch without it.  Then I also hear that the Kube negatively affects the mids/highs according to many owners.  Is fixing this as easy as just bumping up the bass knob or do I really need to employ my miniDSP that I don't want to put in the chain?  Actually, I'll be using my Mcintosh ma7900 integrated so I don't think I can put the miniDSP in the chain anyway.

Woofers have been refoamed and tweeters have new fluid.. Nothing else has been done as far as wiring and crossovers.  

Thoughts on these without the Kube?  Or any other good mods?


dtximages

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So I just auditioned them at this dudes house and they were stupid amazing.  The bass was very deep and full for a speaker this size, or almost any size for that matter..  But THEN I found out later that he had turned the bass knob up to +6 to get them to this point.   I felt this was a very, umm, mediocre or cheating way to get the job done.

I really don't like running things through an on-board EQ as it's very imprecise.

I'm not sure of a way around it though with an integrated amp since miniDSP won't work and is just cumbersome in this second system (i.e. I want to keep the wring very simple).
@roxy54 Can you provide a universally accepted definition of an audiophile? You're probably right to assume I'm not that. I am, however, annoyed by your response and kindly ask for you to troll your superiority complex to other boards.

@yakbob I tend to agree with you and can't get over the fact that the Kube is needed.  I did get a good enough price so I think I'm good. I'll start looking for a Kube.. 

The 107/2 Kube works the same/maybe better on the 107 correct?  In my time researching that seems to be the consensus but there are always those who claim each Kube was matched to that particular speaker and cannot be separated. I believe that's hogwash but who knows.  I'm here to learn.
@roxy54 Let me help you understand a little better. Most "audiophiles" prefer the straightest less altered signal path as possible. They want to believe their speakers are capable on their own merits to produce an accurate full range of sound without "electronic" assistance.

Here’s an example for you. You test drive a corvette and OMG it’s SO much faster than you expected. After your drive you find out there are mods to the engine making it faster than the base Corvette should be. So to reproduce the same high/excitement, you too much employ similar mods... Many which come with downsides.

Lastly, don't come to this thread making snarky responses to people trying to learn. I'm sure your level of Audiophilia is beyond what the common man can understand which makes me wonder why you're wasting your time responding to a lesser experienced person like myself.
@mofojo no because we were walking back to the car when I thought to ask. I've never auditioned speakers before where they EQ'd them so I didn't think to ask.  

Also, I'm getting such a good deal that they're easily worth the money even if I'm not happy with the sound.. I KNOW what they're capable of and it's pretty dang special.
@erik_squires Thanks for that info, I might look into that.  I don't have as much time and know how (or willingness to experiment) as many on here so I appreciate your help.
@roxy54 to maybe change the way I said what I said.. I thought the bass was phenomenal until I found out he boosted the knob way up.. It left me wondering how much "help" the speaker will need in the low end.  From the best I could tell in his bad room they sounded great, or what I knew could be great. Had I had hours to play with them, perhaps I could have figured out something was amiss or not quite right but I just remember thinking "danggg these things go low and sound big".

I took posession of the speakers and wow these are realllllyyyy good even without the KUBE.  I did some more digging and there are some people who claim they can't really tell a difference with/wihtout the KUBE.  I do understand why some people use these without the KUBE and never look back. 

Let me ask you this...  Can I acheive the same effect using a MiniDSP with Dirac as the KUBE?  It's all about proper equilization right?  There's no other magic sauce this KUBE does to bring the speaker to the next level is there?